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            <title>Subject: Re: Peter Lynn Charger - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24883-peter-lynn-charger#24887</link>
            <description>not here. i used to have a 10 m venom back in the day.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Foxton Beach - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24879-foxton-beach#24886</link>
            <description>better you than me bro! i have also had bad luck with fences!!!!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24885</link>
            <description>yeah bro, get some helmet or board cam footage! i need to see close up 100kph +</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: letsgetjase</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24884</link>
            <description>Hi Gavin

Firstly, a big congratualtions to you and your wife, Charlotte on your large impending bump that will no doubt have a largely influential start into the kiting world on its journey. Well Done!

And good luck representing NZ at the Luderitz Speed Challenge in Africa. Such an amazing and beautiful place, and Luderitz a very windy part of the country. 

From the KiteForum crew, ride hard and do your best.  B) 

P.S Keep us posted on your progress. Really enjoy reading about the speeds you are getting in your training runs. You can upload photo's easily at in the photo section (http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kitephotos ) or you can link to video's uploaded into YouTube, Vimeo etc in the video section. (http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kitevideos)</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Peter Lynn Charger - by: ikite</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24883-peter-lynn-charger#24883</link>
            <description>Anyone else out there using one of the new Peter Lynn Chargers?  Would be keen to hear how you find them?
I have a 10m but so far have only used it once in the buggy. Amazing turning speed.   Hopefully will get it out on the water 
sometime soon.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Foxton Beach - by: 50psi</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24879-foxton-beach#24882</link>
            <description>  a new sport &quot;Padock kite skiming&quot;</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Foxton Beach - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24879-foxton-beach#24881</link>
            <description>need video of that adventure...  just remember the #8 wire is like a cheese grater to shins, lets compare scars at the moose ;)</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Foxton Beach - by: butch</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24879-foxton-beach#24880</link>
            <description>Conrad,
everythings cool round here dude. No real damage , jus a wee bit extra driftwood on the high tide line.#
Plenty of flooded roads and fields though.
When the wind kicks in again i got my eyes on a couple of fields that are asking to be kitesurfed. Mmmm , jumping fences......schweet!!</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Foxton Beach - by: 50psi</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24879-foxton-beach#24879</link>
            <description>... now i got your attention butch. 
what has the flooding done to the dunes/beach etc....??</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24878</link>
            <description>its was fathers day , i qualified and made it to the final. but for the new guys it still pays to specify the beach, i didnt need help , true.  yeah it was a moose wind . im not sure why we have been getting such rubbish winds lately</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Winder riding video - by: burr</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24843-winder-riding-video#24877</link>
            <description>Sick video man. Should come down to taranaki for some sick wave video sessions!</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Winder riding video - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24843-winder-riding-video#24876</link>
            <description>ummm flat water...</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Winder riding video - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24843-winder-riding-video#24875</link>
            <description>nice work. how did you do the flyby at the start? attached your gopro to a kite?

lost of wake style spinning. do you get dizzy? 

i need some of that flat water!!!</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: Gavin Broadbent</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24874</link>
            <description>Another good training session yesterday:
PB for average speed(average of 5 fastest 10 second runs)
Stoked with 2 x 50+ runs and new PB for 5 best ave... very gusty day and the wind angle made for a difficult course... centre strut bladder on my Rally 10m blew out sometime early in the day so all runs were on a 2 strut kite... flew fine, what an awesome kite! Winds 26 to 38 knots.
Average speed 49.91 knots ( 50.93 50.03 49.76 49.56 49.26 )  
Max. GPS (display) 55.53 knots  
Max. 2 sec. (software) 55.01 knots  
100 m run 54.08 knots  
250 m run 50.93 knots</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24873</link>
            <description>when land kiting i always take my 10m manta and 6m  access just incase the wind drops or increases and i'm at the other end of the beach. in this instance i'm flying the 10 manta and the 6 access is in the bag. plus theres a few bits an pieces in there like emergency kite repair stuff some bridle bits...</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24872</link>
            <description>i had an awsome kitebuggy hat once,it made everything awsome.. it was better that anything anybody ever had ever, but its gone now... :(  :(</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24871</link>
            <description>come on guys, even im not stupid enuff to go to orewa in a westerly...

wheres al?? dunno, its a westerly.....probably at orewa again!!!
as it happend it was a norwester and got ange going....didnt actualy get the buggy of the roofrack but dave was in fine form on his little 3.something 

the hat was all a dream, i never actualy owend the best hat in the world, it was all a lucid dream.....  :(  :(</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24870</link>
            <description> Jimmy22 wrote: 
 i have 2 little foot links , one big foot link , one super kenda foot link  and one for the zzr 250 rims underway with pete for super high speed, a bit experimental that one. I do have some components set aside for keen folks who want to make their own and the plans for the carkeek leading link variant , eugene is making some nice mounts that are a fraction of the cost of the rubber ones.  if your keen on doing some filing , i recon we can set up a front end .  I would think a big foot front would be best as you can space it for little foot as well .  if you run bigfoots it will inc ground clearance which is perfect :) .  i have almost all raw materials except mounts and 2.0mm wall 25mm diameter tube.  email me :)   pipe bending and welding is the snag but not impossible to overcome given enough time 

Thats a mighty fine selection of front ends you have there. And spare bits lying around. Thats quite impressive.</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: Merkinz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24869</link>
            <description>Awesome vid!  B) ... excellent song choice too! Makes me want to get out in the wind!


... I'm gonna be a bit nosy and ask whats in your backpack? Just been curious as to what people carry around in their kits. Currently trying to make a bag for my buggy.


Look forward to some more vids  :)</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24868</link>
            <description>i can bend 1&quot; tube if you need it bent. Tube that is not pipe!.....</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24867</link>
            <description>i have 2 little foot links , one big foot link , one super kenda foot link  and one for the zzr 250 rims underway with pete for super high speed, a bit experimental that one. I do have some components set aside for keen folks who want to make their own and the plans for the carkeek leading link variant , eugene is making some nice mounts that are a fraction of the cost of the rubber ones.  if your keen on doing some filing , i recon we can set up a front end .  I would think a big foot front would be best as you can space it for little foot as well .  if you run bigfoots it will inc ground clearance which is perfect :) .  i have almost all raw materials except mounts and 2.0mm wall 25mm diameter tube.  email me :)   pipe bending and welding is the snag but not impossible to overcome given enough time</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: LOST Underground Styx Tamaki Estuary - by: noisecontrol</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/24866-lost-underground-styx-tamaki-estuary#24866</link>
            <description>Hi Guys, I got separated from my board over the weekend. If anybody hears of anything I'd love to know. 

Reward offered.

I was out near the Glendowie Sandspit, off the bottom of West Tamaki Drive. 

Also, Thanks to Jason who is a legend and tried to have a look for it. Thanks Mate!!! I owe you one.</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: ahh... did a sneaky 70km today. - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24859-ahh-did-a-sneaky-70km-today#24865</link>
            <description>its climbing harness x seat harness with a high loop for better cog and no spreader bar but needs some mods, it fits under my boardies so u cant see it ,v/casual like lol</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: butch</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24864</link>
            <description>Cheers Tim,
Kited 6 out of 6 Days i was in attendance.
Spent alot of time testing the new 2011 Ozone Depower Foils with my Ozone Team mates Olly B, Torrin, Dan Joblin and the man himself Matt Taggart.
The new Frenzy is absolutely incredible! Pumped up on a massive batch of steroids from the 2010 model its hugely improved in all aspects. 
I especially loved the turning &amp; loop speed of the 11m which was as fast if not faster than the 2010 9m. It was smooth and way more stable than previous years, promoting confidence for those big airs off the slopes. Love it!!
Also super impressed with the 13m. Turn speed was awesome for a foil of its size and its light wind capabilities were unbelieveable. The only kite flying and still hauling us along in the near 3 knot winds on one particular day. Its the Zephyr of the snow!! 

Great to make new friends on the NZ kite scene (my first event apart from the moose last year)and awesome to witness the mad skills of some crazy Kiwi riders.

STOKED and still amping now!!

Cheers guys</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: ahh... did a sneaky 70km today. - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24859-ahh-did-a-sneaky-70km-today#24863</link>
            <description>yes shredding the frsh sand is super sweet. what harness did you end up with johnie?

indeed fathers day was good to me.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: ahh... did a sneaky 70km today. - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24859-ahh-did-a-sneaky-70km-today#24862</link>
            <description>It seems that fathers day was kind to a lot of us. Sounds great.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: ahh... did a sneaky 70km today. - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24859-ahh-did-a-sneaky-70km-today#24861</link>
            <description>wickd, dont u lov rippin up fresh laid sand after the high tide, i got out at pt chev with the new herness today, it needs work but i can work with it 4sur.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: ahh... did a sneaky 70km today. - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24859-ahh-did-a-sneaky-70km-today#24860</link>
            <description>Check those wheel marks on the beach.

All mine babay hahahah! 

http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR4179.jpg</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: ahh... did a sneaky 70km today. - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24859-ahh-did-a-sneaky-70km-today#24859</link>
            <description>had another norwester on the beach so i could hammer the length of the beach...

super sweet. but the baby head sized rocks got me and resulted in a unintended step off at speed... luckily i always carry the 6m access in the back pack and that took most the impact. those baby heads still hirt like hell.   

Wind started out around 15-16 knots so i hauled out the 10 manta and wanged along buy the end of the session i thought &quot;oh we are getting powered now&quot; a quick check on the net later revealed the wind peaked at 25 knots towards the end of my session. ... still the monster board was holding the mighty manta at 25 knots... good times. 

any way as stated above 70km in distance, 27kph ave 53kph max. 

not flash stats for a buggy but respectable on the board.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24858</link>
            <description>What have you got lying around surplus at the moment Jimmy?</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24857</link>
            <description> Jimmy22 wrote: 
 next comes the leading lynn front end,  as long as the factory didnt drop down a crack in the earth on friday.   Wait till you use the axle at the moose !! im probably the only person to have started with front suspension and then added rear :) 

I tried to buy the one Craig had on the ultralight at the Blue balls last year.  He wouldn't sell it as they only had one. 

I quite like the old trailing links. Might be one somewhere in a shed.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24856</link>
            <description> Jimmy22 wrote: 
 next comes the leading lynn front end,  as long as the factory didnt drop down a crack in the earth on friday.   Wait till you use the axle at the moose !! im probably the only person to have started with front suspension and then added rear :) </description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24855</link>
            <description>good point.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: 50psi</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24854</link>
            <description>damm i need ( want ) new buggy parts too  </description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24853</link>
            <description>Always good when the old diggers teeth don't get rattled :)

Amusingly i also was fangin over horse hoof prints today!</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24852</link>
            <description>you didnt mention where the race was buddy :(</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Love that axle - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24851</link>
            <description>next comes the leading lynn front end,  as long as the factory didnt drop down a crack in the earth on friday.   Wait till you use the axle at the moose !! im probably the only person to have started with front suspension and then added rear :)</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Lost - Rush Randle FOILBOARD - by: MikeC</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/24850-lost-rush-randle-foilboard#24850</link>
            <description>Lost at Muriwai today. A Rush Randle foilboard similar to the attached pic.
Dont think theres many in the country. Please let me know if you find it or if you see one being used.

Thanks

Mike 021318119 http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/Jeremys_Foilboard.jpg</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Love that axle - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24849-love-that-axle#24849</link>
            <description>I finally got out with my new Composite axle on the back. I have had it in the house nearly 3 weeks. I had it on the buggy last weekend but I was hiding from the weather with a raging cold and then yesterday I didn't quite get there. Today it finally happened and wow it was a great. Not just the axle but the ride and the wind and the sand and I got to beat on some blokarters. Fathers day is a fine tradition but even better when you get a great ride in.

 Back to the axle. Its not 50 times better and I would hate to quantify it but it is simply better than my old hard axle. I spent a lot of today running over hoof prints and a bit of time on corrugations. My teeth did not get rattled in their sockets and It did not step out so much. On a few of the good runs it felt like I was drifting/floating but I wasn't because I was going forward not sideways. 
I have a feeling there is no going back now.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24848</link>
            <description>You lost the best hat in the world? Al that is seriously poor form. You only had about 12 hours. Very poor. 

Did you race today?</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Found - harness at Shoal Bay - by: eva</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/24847-found-harness-at-shoal-bay#24847</link>
            <description>We have picked up a harness at Shoal Bay on Saturday 4th September. Please contact us if you think it is yours.

:-) Eva

ph 021-727 013
eva@wingsandwaves.co.nz</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: OllyB</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24846</link>
            <description>Had an epic time Tim...thanks bud</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24845</link>
            <description>well, i honestly believe that if your to old for kitesurfing you need to take up buggying, i must add however, that one of the most inspiring things about kitesurfing is that old guys still continue to rock...
thats one of the things i personaly love about the sport, i know iv still got decades to go with it before im done, coming from a mountainbiking background i know that if you wish to be even half comitted to it you have to bee willing to take the knocks, so i took up buggying instead..
seriusly, im not kidding.... 5 years go when i came to NZ i was still i mountainbiker, hadnt touched a kite and i knew my days in mtb were fading as i just diddnt bounce enuff (im 30)
i took up kiting and havnt looked back...mountain biking started to hurt to much.
buggying is not as 3D as kitesuring, but you can go hellish fast and still be well within your comfort zone..
your an oldschool kiter man, 
you will be fine...the hard knocks are just there to remind you whose boss...you will recover enuff to give him the finger every now an again.

dr, watson....i have my notebook...
and im going to the beach tomorrow with flags and my racing underpants on, if anybody wants to join me ill be their from 10am

sadly i never found my hat, i grievd for a good week about it and still look under the seat in the van just to make sure its not their, i think it must have fallen out of my jumper on the way up the sandhill.

it was my best hat, it made me very sad.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Winder riding video - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24843-winder-riding-video#24844</link>
            <description>thats nice jamie, was that shoalster aswell, i dont remember it lookin soo sweet. i lov ur drifty transition bro , hows the knee.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Winder riding video - by: jamie</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24843-winder-riding-video#24843</link>
            <description>Hi Everyone, 

I put together a short video taken from my last few sessions in and around Auckland. Finally made it up to the South Head lagoons (after 7 years kiting). Pretty epic spot...

[video type=vimeo]14632598[/video]


Will be doing a few more videos over the summer of other riders around the place to show case the talent in NZ. Will load them here as they are made. 

Cheers

Jamie</description>
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            <title>Subject: Kite recycling &amp; user safety! - by: edla</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24842-kite-recycling-a-user-safety#24842</link>
            <description>There are allot of old kites out there.. many of them old &amp; dangerous.
Not only are they a potential hazard to any un-educated &quot;wanna kiter&quot; but they are potentially the landfill of the future!
We are forming a non-profit kite recycling program, many parts of old kites can be re-used by people with the right needs or knowledge. The components of the kite can be re-used for many things, more than just the obvious re-use of lines or parts of kite panels for repairs etc., many items can be recycled.. for example;
    
    The kite fabric can be used for bags/ clothing etc.
    The bladder can be sent for recycling, bridal pulleys can be re-used
    Damaged lines can still be used in clothing or countless other uses.

The list goes on!

So if you are interested in sustainability, recycling, seeing your old equipment go another round or just getting that old crap out of your garage contact us!
We may be able to help with freight costs and/or pickup, and if parts of your kite go on to be a significant part of a new kite you may score some cash!

Any proceeds will go back into the kite community in ways such as Safety signage at beaches etc.

Contact: josh@pEdlah.co.nz</description>
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            <title>Subject: Lost Naish Torch Bar &amp; Lines @ Muriwai - by: edla</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/24841-lost-naish-torch-bar-a-lines--muriwai#24841</link>
            <description>If anyone has seen or heard of someone who picked up a 2010 Naish Torch (5 line) bar and lines from Muriwai in the last two weeks? Believed to be left up behind where the cars park on the beach in the Dunes...
If you have it or know of anyone who does would love to have it back and a box of beers or two will definitely come into the equation!
Contact Josh: 0221 507 434</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24840</link>
            <description>Hey Johnnie. 

What we really need you to do is hold the notebook before and after the moose. These lads are always building buggies. We need them to get into the habit of racing them. the way to do that is really simple. Get the flags out. Shout go and write down the results. 
Once they have developed a habit of racing then we can get somewhere. Just building new buggies all the time is not really getting us anywhere.

Perrin has some flags. Wayne has some flags, I am sure you have something that you can use to mark a course.

Any course will do. Just get them to ride it.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24839</link>
            <description>thats a interesting idea jump or go the long way around lol,r u reading this charlie brown ?, i need help here.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24838</link>
            <description>should? have already! it caused some healthy debate amongst the hardcore buggiers that just thought it was wrong! i can hold my own against standard bugs, but the super competative wide axle blokes with stupidly high aspect race kites are hard to beat on the board! buggers go faster upwind and downwind.

ps thats about the average age of kitesurfers down here! best you move to the naki and you might even feel abit on the young side!


pss i'm planning to hold a buggy/board race. since i'll be designing the course the odds will be stacked in my favour! shh don't tell the buggiers but there'l be section that you'll have to jump over or do a long downwind/upwind tack! that should sort those pesky buggiers with theres high aspect low lift kites!!

hahaha evil laugh!  maybe a river crossing or 2.... boulder section. stop, get out make a sand castle get back in... that sort of stuff.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24837</link>
            <description>hey plummet, im 52 now but keep it to urself ok,u raise another question, should the m/boards race with the buggies or would that b abit crazy, wat do u think</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24836</link>
            <description>how old are you johnienz? i'm sure your neVer to old to race buggies!

I race them! but i like to stand up so i race em on my board!.....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24835</link>
            <description>hey charlie howsit,perrin reckons i should do it seams im too old to race buggies and i wasnt much good at it anyway, so perhaps at the moosse meet ill organise one and have a note book  aswell, so if u could help me with the details like how the hell to do it thatd b good.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: ferncm</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24834</link>
            <description>Hey Guys

Looks like kiting in Tonga is out of the question now. Got in a bicycle accident on Monday and broke my radial head in my right arm. Looking at the forecast as well, would of been amazing! Drinking a cold beer under a coconut tree may be the only thing I am doing next week.

 :(</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: New(ish) to Wellington - getting back into kites - by: xtremekitesports</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24829-newish-to-wellington-getting-back-into-kites#24833</link>
            <description>Hey mate if your up waikanae way give me a yell and i can hook you up with some local land kiters,there are quite a few welly riders who come out at the weekends as well.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Stolen - Styx 128 and FLX 135 - by: eva</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/24832-stolen-styx-128-and-flx-135#24832</link>
            <description>Last night 2 boards were stolen out of my car, parked in the driveway in Bayswater:

 2010 Underground STYX 128 (white/grey) 

and

 2009 Underground FLX 135  (red) in bright orange custom board bag

They both have / had a Wings &amp; Waves sticker which is rectangular and clear with yellow graphics on them.

Can you please all keep an eye out for these boards?! I bet they will show up on trademe or at a cash converter, or maybe someone will try to sell them to a shop.

THANK YOU.

Eva 021-727 013 or 09-446 0020
evakeim@gmail.com</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 06:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: New(ish) to Wellington - getting back into kites - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24829-newish-to-wellington-getting-back-into-kites#24831</link>
            <description>hey welly. i'm a man of dh mtbing turn landboarder/kitesurfer. infact i still mtb but backed off from hardcore dh to allmountain style riding. Just got back from the french alps for a week of hard core mountain riding!. did the mega avalanche track (not the race) and that was super cool. 

anyway back to kites. 

Wellington it self is pretty hard core for land kiting theres very little open spots. lyall bay and petone are places to go but its very tight and you could get dragged into power lines, trees, buses etc. I suggest you head to waikane for further up to Butch in Foxton for your first few forays into kiting again. 

start back with a 4m size 4 line kite,  a blade is good but generally pretty expensive in nz. as 50 says peter lynn and or ozone are represented well in nz. 

I also state that you should look at depower after you get your hand in aswell. 

Also look as kitesurfing too. in wellington itself theres more kitesurfing opportunities that landkiting. But if your prepaired to make the journey to waikanie and north the beaches there are supreme for land based tom foolery.</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: New(ish) to Wellington - getting back into kites - by: 50psi</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24829-newish-to-wellington-getting-back-into-kites#24830</link>
            <description>in nz check out peter lynn becaues of the price point, flexifoil still make very good kites see there web site. BUT by far the best way to go is a de-power kite, ozone! bigger wind range and a lot more useable on a board.</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: New(ish) to Wellington - getting back into kites - by: Welly</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24829-newish-to-wellington-getting-back-into-kites#24829</link>
            <description>Hi guys,

When I say &quot;new&quot; I've been here almost a year :) So not so new but anyway.. used to fly back home in the UK a few years back and then sold up when other activities (downhill mountainboarding) took up too much of my time. Anyway, being a few years older and fed up of breaking myself, and being in a pretty windy city, I'd like to get back into kiting. I used to fly a 4m Flexifoil Blade 2 (they're probably onto blade 3 or 4 by now?!) which I loved, and I also had a little 1 metre pocketable kite which was quite a bit of fun. I dabbled with landboarding and it's something I plan to get into again but would just like to start by getting myself dragged around a field until funds allow a mountainboard!

So what's available these days? It has been quite a few years since I flew and while I reckon flying a kite is like riding a bike (minus the handlebars, wheels and brakes etc.) so not concerned about being able to pick it up again but more interested in what is the current recommended kite in the 4m blade-type range?

Cheers guys!

Welly</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24828</link>
            <description>hi kerry my names johnie, i know everything, at least thats wat my girlfriend tells me, so how can i help u,</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moving to Wellington! - by: Welly</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24786-moving-to-wellington#24827</link>
            <description>I'm down in Island Bay, about ten minutes walk from the beach. Every other bus in Wellington appears to be going to Island Bay. It's pretty nice down there and not a million miles from town.

Oh, hi chaps, just signed up to the forum :)</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24826</link>
            <description>Talking of hats. Did you find your new hat Al?</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24825</link>
            <description>you know what dr watson, everytime i see a notebook now im gonna think of you standing their in the wind with your furry hat blowing around.

fill your world with notebooks and it will be a better place.. ;) 

no racing for me, not since bbbb...i dont even think i was racing then, i definntly havnt touched a racing notebook...but im going to go and buy one just incase.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24824</link>
            <description>i need abit more wind say 18 knots for some faster speed and some bigger jumps. at 12 knots  i'd have to really crank as fast as i could, swing the kite back quite far and jump. it meant i wasn't landing with much foward momentum. But still it put a huge  grin on my face. theres something about landkiting that i find extra special over kitesurfing! 

Gannet the go pro is a sweet sweet tool and robust as hell.  i slammed mine into the rear tire of my mtb at 50kph. the result? a small scratch on the lense. buy a new lense for $20 and its all go. 

i created that vid at about half the quality of the actual gopro quality. 235mb for 5 mins!. 

16mins per gb!

So yourl need masses of memory at processing power on your pc to store and edit the footage</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Blankforce Kiteboards New to New Zealand - by: windandsea</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/2-buying--selling-kite-sports-gear/24823-blankforce-kiteboards-new-to-new-zealand#24823</link>
            <description>Wind &amp; Sea Kiteboarding are the New Importer and Dealer for the Blankforce Kiteboard range.

On the 1st November 2010 we will have for DEMO the CARBON FIBRE boards:
- Ballistic M (132 x 41)
- Advisory Carbon AM (130 x 40)

For more information about the design and looks check out www.windandsea.co.nz or contact us via email: info@windandsea.co.nz</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: 2011 Girls Beginners Kiteboarding Camp - by: windandsea</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/10-international-visitors--tourists--adventure-seekers/24822-2011-girls-beginners-kiteboarding-camp#24822</link>
            <description>Jasmin Alder owner of Wind &amp; Sea Kiteboarding Centre,
and IKO qualified Instructor will be hosting a Girls beginner kiteboarding camp, held over 4 days in Tauranga during January 2011.
(Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday dates and cost to be advised)

Jasmin has taught a wide range of people in New Zealand, Egypt and Turkey, she can also teach in 3 languages: English, French and German.

During this 4 day camp you will be taking through a full Kiteboarding course from first piloting of a trainer kite to up and riding on the water with confidence (all the necessary kiteboarding gear will be provided during the 4 day camp).

Space’s are limited to 8 people so make sure you book in fast to be garneted your spot in the first ever Girls kiteboarding Camp .

For those girls who are up and riding and are wanting to progress to the next level a Girls Intermediate kiteboarding camp will held over 4 days in Tauranga during February 2011. (days ,dates and cost to be advised)

For more Information please contact Jasmin Alder by email: info@windandsea.co.nz</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24821</link>
            <description>we havent raced since blueballs, raglan race in jan and moose meet 2009, cant remember when the previous one was.  unless its a special weekend Perrin is only available on sundays,  and often the weather doesnt play ball :)  .  we have had the most successful one off races in NE winds and id have to say those have been very few this year so far. i was focused on building racing buggies for a while, ironically i have not ever raced with one in a full blown event, hehe.  i raced with my modded PL buggies in both previous events.  currently much effort is going into building another buggy hopefully to have a run at the moose. next few weeks are planned out inc the static kite day and jazz band on the 12th sept at takapuna so i guess it might be the moose before i race again.  still it only takes 2 to have a fun race :)</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24820</link>
            <description>awesome,im always telling you to get a buggy but now i see why you love the board.  keep it up :)</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Any results from auckland yet? - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24819-any-results-from-auckland-yet#24819</link>
            <description>Have you Auckland boys got any race results yet. I know you guys put the flags out from time to time. Any chance someone took a notebook and recorded any race results?</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: kerryadelfred</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24818</link>
            <description>Hello,

I m Kerry Adelfred. Today I use this forum first. I learn very much from your forum. Please give me more guidance related to this topic only. I am very happy after using this forum.

Thank You.




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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: kerryadelfred</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24817</link>
            <description>Hello,

I m Kerry Adelfred. Today I use this forum first. I learn very much from your forum. Please give me more guidance related to this topic only. I am very happy after using this forum.

Thank You.




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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: Gannet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24816</link>
            <description>Very cool  B) 

Awesome jump as well  B) 

we'll have to start a GoPro thread, yup! I have one now     

just need some time  to get my sorry ass onto the beach</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24815</link>
            <description>gopro hd. with a helmet mount sticky back thing on the deck.

The vimeo upload is at about half resolution.</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: sabre</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24814</link>
            <description>Nce vid - what camera/mount do you use ?</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24813</link>
            <description>ouch that could b painful,i recomend caution, ive neva done it either ( posted a vid )</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Twilight Cruize! Video - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24812-twilight-cruize-video#24812</link>
            <description>Hey Bros here's my first ever attempt at uploading a video to the web. 

Its also my first ever editing attempt. So go easy on me!

This is a nice cruizy session on the beach. Wind is about 12knots. I'm flying the 10m manta II. Cruizing along around 40 - 45kph, throwing the occasional jump. The log jump is amusing at 2mins as is riding the rocks at 3 mins. If you check out the stuff i ride past and over your'l see why I use monster tyres. 

http://www.vimeo.com/14528707</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24811</link>
            <description>gurner? i learn't my skill by trial and error.... mainly error. hehehe

ps i don't mind dogs chasing me. i haven't been bit yet. i think if you talk to them normally or without fear they think here's something to be chased rather than eaten. Also my board would snap the legs of the strongest dog so if one does come a chewen i'll just mow em down. 

ps Al I've got a vid finished too. it'l be my virginal first video upload to the interweb. hopefully i'll be able to upload tomorrow.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24810</link>
            <description>AWSOME....the plumbtree wallop...

just one question, you are a mean gurner, where did you learn thoes skills??
love your stuff...

welldone.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24809</link>
            <description>AWSOME....the plumbtree wallop...

just one question, you are a mean gurner, where did you learn thoes skills??
love your stuff...

welldone.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24808</link>
            <description>yeh ive had that with dogs chasing me , i hate it i had a old lab bite my leg once, it didnt do any danage and the owners said it had never biten anyone b4 so i guess it got ova excited, didnt end up at muriwai today but went to pt'chev instead, thats a local spot bout 5min down the road,i had the whole place to myself, just the way i like it.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24807</link>
            <description>thats not my dog, its just a random dog on the beach. i still haven't found a dog that can out run me. a german sherpherd managed 40kph for about 1km once that was impressive. but i still beat his sorry ass.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24806</link>
            <description>ha ha you need a faster dog, well done 4 gettin out eh,im thinkin of muriwai thisarvo, high tides middayish and the 4cast is 20 &gt; 30 kts but i dont believe it so well see, hats way too much 4 a old man like me on a m/board so ill hit the water i think</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moving to Wellington! - by: Tribal</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24786-moving-to-wellington#24805</link>
            <description>Oriental Bay super close to the city. 

Island Bay, Lyall Bay a bit farther away but buses are pretty good in welly.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24804</link>
            <description>Sorry dog you can try but you can't run as fast as i can landboard!!! ahhaha run faster! 

http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR3716-20100828.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24803</link>
            <description>Sorry dog you can try but you can run as fast as i can landboard!!! ahhaha run faster! 

http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR3716.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: twilght landboarding pics - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24802</link>
            <description>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR3646.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: twilght landboarding pics - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24801-twilght-landboarding-pics#24801</link>
            <description>Well i managed to sneak out for a twilight landboard tonight. about 12 knots if i was lucky.

wind was onshore which happens about 6 times a year so i could cruise the length of the beach. 

man it put a grin on my face! its been a while since i had a decent landboard session. 

http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR3666.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: Laurence</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24800</link>
            <description>Hey man hope you have a sweet trip, you will definately have to let us know how it all goes. Im two weeks away from finishing a three month stint at work away from home so the girl thing and i are also heading up to vanuatu when i get home, ive been allowed to take my gear also so hoping to get a few sessions in up there while the bunny chills with her book on the beach in the sun. Any one ever kited there before?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Waterproof MP3 player. - by: Kitey</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24794-waterproof-mp3-player#24799</link>
            <description>I love my music and have all the latest technology toys.

However, I can't imagine listening to music while sailing. 

Whatever happened to just enjoying the sound of the wind and waves???</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: kiwisurferboy</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24798</link>
            <description>heh its mike. Haapai is great. Sally and Dave will look after you. You can kite straight from Matafonua I drift launched into the channel and from the lodge you have a huge playground its mostly deep water but a few coral heads at low tide. You an also kite at the causeway best on a high tide. At the other end of the island from Matafonua you can walk across the coral to a deserted island with great sandy beach thats good fun. Take bigger kites as with the humidity and heat whats seems high wind isnt as dense. There is kiwi beer and wine good price so wouldnt take any. The local currency for Dave and sally is fishing magazines womans mags and pineaplle lumps. If you take a memory stick dave has great camera and will take pics for you. Give us a ring if you wnat to know more 021995682</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24797</link>
            <description>well i'm in the naki so most of my landboarding takes place down here. when i'm in auckland i usually hit up muriwai the moose or orewa on the landboard. i haven't tried bastion.  but a standing wave sounds like fun. 

i don't mind high wind landboarding. i have land kites good for 35-40 knots. my monster board is stable indeed.  but i'm not a free styler. i'm more into speed distance and old school floaty jumps. kiting the length of muriwai beach has to be one of the highlights of my short kiting life. 


as for land v water. i head for the water in a cross shore and the land on an onshore. in thruth i still favour the land.....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Waterproof MP3 player. - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24794-waterproof-mp3-player#24796</link>
            <description>bro its so sweet havin sounds on the water, i got into it a few years ago but the audio equipt dosent last long eh, the salt just gets in uknow, but yeh getin the grove if u can 4 sur.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24795</link>
            <description>tks michelle , ive gota try somthin else so yeh, next time i c u at the beach i can show u some tricks if u like, sounds abit doggy 4 a ole man but i mean it in a good way, hey plummet i use a m/board 2, its my fav 4 sur but  scary when the wind gets up eh, and yeh when it goes wrong it hurts bad, i dont get 2 silly on my m/board and as soon as it starts pumping im headed 4 the h2o. where do u go, have u tried bastion pt in a westerly, theres a hill on the left thats like a solid wave and they mowe the lawns short, its lotsa fun in 8 to 10 kts, not enuf to kiteboard with lol.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Waterproof MP3 player. - by: Laurence</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24794-waterproof-mp3-player#24794</link>
            <description>To those grommets who are into their tunes, I recently brought a waterproof MP3 player made by speedo (Aquabeat, 1gb of musical goodness, supposedly completely waterproof up to three metres including earbuds)thus enabling the enjoyment of tasty jams on the water. I must say, very impressed with sound quality, Though I havnt yet had the chance to use it in anger. The concept has me wondering though, there must be other music addicts out there, what do other people listen to before, after (during???) a session??

maybe abit of manson or metallica, for the phsyche up? or perhaps abit of reggae/dub? or even some dirty old drum and base/house?

Whats your flavour?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24793</link>
            <description>no i'm on a landboard on the land, not in a buggy. So i'm standing up. similar to kitesurfing. powered landboarding is actually harder on the body than powered kitesurfing. on the land the waist harness just kills me. but i can use the ozone harness for hours. 

on a side note i find the ozone climbing style harnes doesn't give as much back support as the waist harness. its thinner. but it does pull from a different spot which may be good for you?  

Whats causing the pain? the fact that its riding up? or are you screwing your lower back and abs due to heaps of air time and dangling under the kite. if its due to dangling then i think the seat style or climbing style will help.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: Michelle</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24792</link>
            <description>Johnie,
With all of your whining you are starting to sound like an old man!  Yet I have seen you out there and only hope to come close to pulling some of the tricks that you do!

Have you tried a short harness?  It shifts the weight lower like a seat harness, but doesn't feel like a nappy :)

Make sure you wear a pair of shorts/lycra or something underneath as the leg straps can rub bare skin a bit - but I think it might be what you are looking for.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24791</link>
            <description>so have u used the climbing harness in ur buggie, do u hardwire on 2 the buggie like perrin. i cant wiat to try somthing different on the water,i dred the bac pians afterwards, hope to get out this w/end if the hip keeps improving.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24790</link>
            <description>I don't mind the waist harness on the water as the kite is lower generally. I don't get the break my ribs feeling. 

on land the kite is generally higher for a number of reasons. because of that the waist harness tries to break my ribs. i need to use a non rib breaking harness on the land.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24789</link>
            <description>sur id try anything once eh, how come u dont use it in the water</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24788</link>
            <description>you could also consider an ozone xc snow kiting harness if your looking at climbing style. the ozones harness is like a clibing harness but with more padding on the legs and back. 

i use the ozone harness on the land and a waist on the water. Cog is abit different but only takes a session or 2 to get used. to. 

advantages. never ever rides up. 

disatvantages. set it up wrong and there'l be abit of ball squeeze going on. no loop to attach the safety to. 

ps i've never used it in the water.</description>
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            <title>Subject: the evolution of the kiteboarder - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24787-the-evolution-of-the-kiteboarder#24787</link>
            <description>to sit or stand, that is the question. yes its been asked b4, weve all had our 2 cents worth but its diffrent this time, cause its my problem now. my back has been complaining most resently about my waist harness,although the alturitives arnt good so far as i can tell, a seat harness, a nappy 4 gods sake, no i dont likem not just because the cog is too high and ur heads likley to land on terra firma b4 ur feet, its just cause threr bulky and dont look good. but the awnser came from my dear ole mate at kiteworks, perrin. hes sugested a climbing harness, its light, cheep, its somwhere inbetween both styls, so far as cog, and it can fit under my boardies so ill still look casual on the beach,not like some spaceman lookin 4 ground control, lov'n'peace johnie.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Moving to Wellington! - by: ferncm</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24786-moving-to-wellington#24786</link>
            <description>Hey All

Moving to Wellington from Rotorua end of next month, and need some help. Trying to find a flat, but got no idea which areas in Wellington I should be looking at. Want to be close enough to the coast so that I can go for a kite, but not miles away from the city, as well as it being a nice area on the public transport route. Any help would be really great!

Cheers

Chris</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24785</link>
            <description>lets face it theres a thin margin of cross wind with a little down wind angle that i can foot it almost with the buggies. if it gets too upwind or downwind i'm screwed. i'm not too far behind tho so if you have a little issue i'll pounce and take advantage of your misfortune. not unlike the lion pounces on the weakest slowest wilderbeast in the heard....

i'm hunkering for another match up with the buggiers. maybe the moose? goto  get some time back on the board tho. its been severly lacking in the last 3 months.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24784</link>
            <description>lets face it theres a thin margin of cross wind with a little down wind angle that i can foot it almost with the buggies. if it gets too upwind or downwind i'm screwed. i'm not too far behind tho so if you have a little issue i'll pounce and take advantage of your misfortune. not unlike the lion pounces on the weakest slowest wilderbeast in the heard....

i'm hunkering for another match up with the buggiers. maybe the moose? goto  get some time back on the board tho. its been severly lacking in the last 3 months.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: kitesports.co.nz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24783</link>
            <description> WANAKITE 2010 Video Competition!  
For the keen snowkiters who venture south for Wanakite, whether it's just for a day, or the week, we wanna ALL see your experiences!!! The FREEDOM of Snowkiting is truely EPIC, so let's share it! So, bring ya Cams &amp; Go Pros, shoot ya mates slaying some pow, then put it together &amp; we'll screen it at the Snowfarm Lodge during the week...the final night &amp; Prize Presentation will be Sat 4th Sept. 

(videos posted on Facebook Wanakite page included for anyone who can't be there)

See you in Wanaka!
Tim B)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24782</link>
            <description>smaller kite is a better bet, the wind goes up as you go up the hill , easy to hide a smaller kite too ;)</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24781</link>
            <description>i think that i give dave more props so im not too sad if he passes me, but having said that  i dont think its happened too often :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: kitesports.co.nz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24780</link>
            <description>Looks good for the start of Wanakite....perfect 10m weather B)</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: bikesandboards</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24779</link>
            <description>holy crap - didn't realise it was this weekend.  I have arranged four days of QTown / Wanaka boarding as of this Friday and didn't even think to check the dates of the festival

Never snow-kited before and think the missus may have something to say if I start packing the kites as well

BUT

if I was to sneak one in the board bag roughly which size would I have the best chance with (how long is a piece of string, I know, I know) but IF ....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: ferncm</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24778</link>
            <description>Hey

Thanks for your reply, what a bugger you couldnt go to Tonga because of work!. I am going to be saying at Matafonua Lodge for a couple days. Alright, arm has been twisted, the kiting gear is getting packed in. Will post some pictures if I get on the water. Fingers crossed!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: Michelle</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24777</link>
            <description>I was supposed to be at Matafonua lodge on Ha'apai Island 2 weeks ago which apparently has great wind for kiting all day.
Mike F went last year and got some awesome kiting in.
Work pressures meant I couldn't go this year, but for sure take your gear - and then write back and tell us all how great it was :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24776</link>
            <description>He passed me one time. Pretty heart breaking. Not the worst thing ever but I made sure I passed him back. Didn't feel much better after that.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24775</link>
            <description>i have been catching up on the discussion.. whew ..   I just realized something.   Its really cool to watch the leading link concept evolve and be customized by others too.  Ill look forward to riding your mk9 version of the leading link Al :) . I wish plummet would make a buggy, i know it would be cool he just needs to grow up /older first hehe.   Gene , i have had very poor results from the bigfoot leading link on the bike rims so far , it wasnt made for the job.. sure but im going to have to work out something new to handle the super hard tyres, now they are down from 42! psi it should be a bit better haha.  

just noticed something cool about the xx apex racer that is going into my next buggy, ironically it was anyway but i have just realized its already there on the apex i just started my evolution a few years later :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24774</link>
            <description>dont think moving the axle back is a remedy, it just means my fork has a setting that isnt tuned.
also i wanted the axle to be where it is for handling reasons, id like to reduce the headangle but thats about if for fork tuning, the handling is based on my v-max angles with the bigfoots on..thats where all the measurments for the forks came from an im gonna stick with it because its soooo sweet..
im gonna go with my spring theory, i dont want to make anything firmer or stiffer, the fork is so supple that to change this would be sacralige...
i think i might have to make some airo blades for the fork legs, that way i can hide the springs  ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24773</link>
            <description>bieng over taken by a landboarder was like a bad dream..a bad memory..a nightmate, one where han solo and luke skywalker endup working for jabba and darth vader takes over the galaxy.
the darkside cannot win, my whole world turned upside down...i may never get over it...its the worst thing that could have possibly happend EVER.</description>
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            <title>Subject: swollowed up - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24772-swollowed-up#24772</link>
            <description>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR3527.JPG 

hehe didn't quite make it over this wave.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Tonga KiteBoarding - by: ferncm</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24771-tonga-kiteboarding#24771</link>
            <description>Hey All

Going over to Tonga to get away from this wet weather and plan on spending a couple days on Ha'apai Island. Is it worth taking my gear over? Been looking at the Guru and it has been saying anything from 5--&gt;18 knots Easterly. Any specific spots on the island or around Tonga you would recommend?

Thanks so much

Chris</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: Mark T</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24770</link>
            <description>age is just a number. another number that the system labels you so you can be its bitch.

and as someone sed on a certain hells kitchen episode.... &quot;I ain't no bitch!&quot;

 ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: On water awareness / courtesy - by: bikesandboards</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24769-on-water-awareness--courtesy#24769</link>
            <description>In NZ we have the luxury of an abundance of beach space and few people which makes kiting great.  However, occasionally, we bunch up in on-shore winds and also for a variety of other valid reasons.  In times like these we need to be aware of when we're pushing someone into the beach and/or another kiter loitering and turn away to prevent an on-beach collision or worse a kite to kite collision

A little awareness is all that is required for us all to enjoy the same section of water

This is not a rant just a nudge to remind people to be courteous

See you on the water!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24768</link>
            <description> northernal321 wrote: 
 whats happend is that i decided to make the trail on the fork the same as my rigid forks at about 110mm from the centerline, this is a bit longer than usual llforks so the effect of unwanted sag is more pronounced. 

Looking at this you have the minimum trail and the largest load thru leverage on the elastomers. This and the result of a heavier buggy makes a big difference.
http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/P7100022.JPG

You usually move the axle back in relation to the fork axis to increase trail.
Rake and trail (http://pic7.piczo.com/Popeyethewelder/?g=44487739&amp;cr=7)
This would in effect reduce the leverage on the elastomers.

Otherwise if you want to run the trail you have now with the axle on the forward end hole of the swingarm why not chop and change the forks to bring the pivot point forward and reduce the amount of leverage on the elastomers. This is what I'm doing with the moosetruck to bring it closer to the operating range of the elastomer(that and making the elastomers slightly larger)

PS. Think I'll need the larger elastomers for running a 17&quot; bike wheel anyway.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24767</link>
            <description>I remember that time i beat Al up wind.... i was sporting arm in a cast tooo.... aahhh got times. 

Then i remember the times Al has wasted my sorry ass... no i don't i'll blank them from my memory. hehehe....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: SimonP</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24766</link>
            <description>Depends on how hard you kite. :) 
One handed raileys are pretty hard on the body, especially the shoulders.

I got a new hip 3 months ago (osteo-arthritis) and the specialist banned me from high impact sports for 6 months. After a couple of months of wasting away I thought bugger it I need exercise so took on a kite-boarding trip to Samoa. 10 days of heat and kiting almost every day was amazing, the muscles are now back to full strength and the extra flexibility is great. I can feel things seizing up again in rainy old NZ and from sitting down all day. Keep moving and stretching  :) 

There are a number of old rippers out there, kiting is certainly less demanding on the body that windsurfing or snow-boarding.

Simon</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24765</link>
            <description>hahaaaa, go the watson buggy machine...always good to overtake something that in theory should be going faster than you.
its that nice smoothe style you posess charlie  ;)  
must learn that one day.

good luck with the new buggy bits, moose not far away, better have it ready!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24764</link>
            <description> plummet wrote: 
 yikes. looks abit bleak......
i suppose thats kiting for you. if you have one good day in an event you should be happy!. 

We had 2 good days. One was just wet.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24763</link>
            <description>rubbers are the same as the ones you made, there the natural rubber looking ones...
the way i see it the link has roughly 2inch travel in either direction, 4inch in total up and down...the buggy takes up one and i take up the other leaving only very stiff and unusable travle at the very end of the stroke..
the way i set up a bike fork is when i weight up the bike i use up roughly a third of its travel as sag, at the moment the buggy uses up a half of the travel all by its self, this means the link needs some preload to compensate both the weight of the buggy AND my own body weight to make the most of the travel.
at the moment even if the urethane was stiffer it still wouldnt have any preload, you would still have the spring loaded in the wrong direction with all your mass, so to compensate for this it needs some spring...
whats happend is that i decided to make the trail on the fork the same as my rigid forks at about 110mm from the centerline, this is a bit longer than usual llforks so the effect of unwanted sag is more pronounced.</description>
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            <title>Subject: I passed a class 5 land yacht. - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24762-i-passed-a-class-5-land-yacht#24762</link>
            <description>Woohoo Today I did the impossible. I passed a class 5 land yacht. They are the 100k+ yachts. I have to admit that it was not having a real push but I caught it in a dull patch of wind and roared on passed. Thats right up there with passing the Terminator. I don't care if he has a broken buggy and a wet kite. I f I can pass Perrin I am happy.  
For todays effort I was testing my new 3m PL Twister 2. I got a broken one and replaced all the primary bridles. It was flying great but was a bit small for the wind and the angle was all wrong.  The land yachts were pulling 80k+ on the good runs. I wasn't going that fast but I will take that pass.
Nice kite that twister. It is the one Craig did 88kph on my beach with so it will go as fast as I want to ride and it handles great. 
After I got back from the beach I took my buggy apart and made some bushes up so I could fit my composite axle. Its 1030mm but I am going to space it out to near 1100. I am so looking forward to riding on that. Should have done it before I went riding but time was running out and I was keen to try my new kite.
With the blue balls and the new bits and a bit of pace recently it has been a good month.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24761</link>
            <description>Hey Al, looking through the vid and your swingarm on the leading link appears to be traveling steady and horisontally! Unless I'm missing something they seem to be good unless you're riding with other rubbers.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24760</link>
            <description>thats great tks ,im feelin better now but it still husts.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: xtremekitesports</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24759</link>
            <description>Your never to old we have a 69 year old legend rider up here who rocks it as hard as the best of us,hope i can go as hard when i'm that age.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: kitesurfnelson</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24758</link>
            <description>Tell that too the 69 year old kitesurfer here in Nelson! 
First on the water and usually last to get off too. Retired and always keen for wind!!

Hope I'm still doing it at his age!! :-)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: ikite</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24757</link>
            <description> plummet wrote: 
 I find quite the opposite true for me. kitesurfing is easier on the body that my other sports!. Fall off on the landboard or skate board or mountain bike and it will hurt. on the water chances are yourl be fine.

ps most of the guys round here that rip are easily in theres late 40's early 50's. The old diggers definatly got some tricks up there sleaves! 

I agree - some of us ain't that young and really enjoy the sport!    Kiting has its real risks - for any age.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24756</link>
            <description>I find quite the opposite true for me. kitesurfing is easier on the body that my other sports!. Fall off on the landboard or skate board or mountain bike and it will hurt. on the water chances are yourl be fine.

ps most of the guys round here that rip are easily in theres late 40's early 50's. The old diggers definatly got some tricks up there sleaves!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: to old to kiteboard - by: ian c</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24755</link>
            <description>just unlucky - you heal and get back out there! Heard point shite had more wind than west coast today.</description>
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            <title>Subject: to old to kiteboard - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24754-to-old-to-kiteboard#24754</link>
            <description>i crashed at pt'chev today doin a raily grab,it wasnt a big impact i hardly made a splash but i landed on my hip and now i can hardly move,so is kiteboarding only for the young ,not the young at heart,oouch...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Calling any Kiters in the Wellington Area - by: xtremekitesports</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/10-international-visitors--tourists--adventure-seekers/24725-calling-any-kiters-in-the-wellington-area#24753</link>
            <description>Hi mate if you jump on wellington kitesurfers google groups ,most of the wellington guys use it as the discussion forum,it should come up on a google search.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: lost/Taken Nobile666 board 135x44 silver / purple - by: xtremekitesports</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/23146-losttaken-nobile666-board-135x44-silver--purple#24752</link>
            <description>Hope you get it back but dont count on it unless the police can prosecute someone,i've had a couple of guys here with the same prob and you have to bring a civil suit againt c-converters, usually its not worth it due to the cost, crazy.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: Michelle</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24751</link>
            <description>One week to go!!!
Between the jetlag and the excitement, I had enough time to mess around with this today :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke-RO3ZDkBk</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JASON FROM KITE FORUM - by: letsgetjase</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/24685-big-happy-birthday-to-jason-from-kite-forum#24750</link>
            <description>Hi All, 

Thank You Dan, Michelle and Shane for my birthday wishes. 35 years old last weekend!

Really appreciate the kinds words and the photo at Snow Farm last year.

Would LOVE to get down to Wanakite this year, however have just started a new job at Touchpoint (http://touchpointgroup.com) in the city and have yet to earn kiting day credits.

Wishing everyone that is heading down this year to Wanakite a wonderful and amazing time, that you look out for each other and treat the mountains with the respect they command. It is simply a special place up in the mountains on a windy day, kite in hand, fresh powder underneath. Simply sensational...

N-joi everyone. 

Ka Kite Ano Te Whanau</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Traveling  South Island where to snow kite? - by: Dan.j</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/24747-traveling-south-island-where-to-snow-kite#24749</link>
            <description>hey mate check out tim from kitesports in CHCH  for gear or maybe john imhoff from boarder patrol, there is a little shop in QT if my memory serves me right, snow farm is best in most wind directions but cardrona gets some wind too. the rest of the spots you need a pretty serious 4wd to get to and some local know how. 

SEE YOU AT WANAKITE !!!!!!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Assault Kiteboarding Centre Youth Development Camp - by: Assault Kiteboard Centre</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24748-assault-kiteboarding-centre-youth-development-camp#24748</link>
            <description>Assault Kiteboarding Centre
Youth Development Camp (http://www.assault.co.nz/akc-youth-camp_Assault_Kiteboarding_Centre.html)

In association with:  NZ Kiteboarder : Airush : North : Ozone : Naish : Slingshot : Underground : Mystic : Ion

Dates: 2nd - 7th October 2010
Location: Mt Maunganui and Tauranga
Price: To be advised

6 days of Kiteboarding skill development, freestyle and free riding and competition for youth Kiteboarders. Join some of New Zealand's top National and International Kiteboarders as your training instructors. Master your moves, learn new techniques, ride and compete along side some of NZ's best.

Our Youth Camp instructors have extensive national and international competition experience along with many hours of kiteboarding instruction experience. All three were coaches at the AKC Youth Development Camp 2009.

Kelby Bright
Assault Team Rider
North National Team Rider

Torrin Bright
Assault Team Rider
Ozone International Team Rider

Brad Hill
Assault Team Rider
Airush National Team Rider


We will have photo shoots and video shoots with all the riders to document the action, and you will feature in New Zealand Kiteboarder magazine for 2010.

Conditions:
Participants must be 19 or under and of intermediate Kiteboarding skill level, i.e. must be able to confidently ride on their own.


 Click here for the Registration Form (http://www.assault.co.nz/351_Assault_Kiteboarding_Centre.html)  (register your interest, just for us to gauge numbers and abilities etc)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Traveling  South Island where to snow kite? - by: Skimnur</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/24747-traveling-south-island-where-to-snow-kite#24747</link>
            <description>Hey everyone me and my mate are going to be traveling NZ south island for the next 2 weeks and I was just looking for some advise on where might be some good places to snow kite. We will be spending a bit of time around Queenstown, Arrowtown and Wanaka
(plan on checking out the wanakite freeride).

Ill be bringing my own kites over but will need snowboard gear and my mate will need kite gear but he has snowboard gear any places you would recommend for hiring gear?

Anyway we will be cruising around in our van and any advise/tip would be great.

Hope to see you out there soon.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24746</link>
            <description>yikes. looks abit bleak......
i suppose thats kiting for you. if you have one good day in an event you should be happy!.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: MrFy</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24745</link>
            <description>Hi all, I have uploaded what little video footage from the First day of Blue Balls at Kawhia. Not much buggying but plenty of Rain. Shame Thomas and I had to head back to Wellington and miss day 2 at Raglans. Not a great video session as the camera kept shutting done in the rain

Here's the link

(gotta love the thumbs up from Perrin going down the hill)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEuIsb0oZPU</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: lost/Taken Nobile666 board 135x44 silver / purple - by: karl@taranaki</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/3-stolen--lost--found-kite-sports-gear/23146-losttaken-nobile666-board-135x44-silver--purple#24744</link>
            <description>Good news, cash converters tried to sell my board and looks like I might get it back after all. 

The police need to process it before I get it back, good times.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24743</link>
            <description> northernal321 wrote: 
 yea, im not worried about the tramp in the moose, even my libre tramps when you push it out hard enuff.
and i compleatly understand the buggy isnt designed for hard sand racing or drifting..
i shouldnt really have been taking it as sideways as that but was just getting a feel for it...reality is thatyou only go that sideways when your coming to a stop...the only thing that would realy require it to be changed/fixed would be if i start racing that buggy and it starts tramping on a hard overpowerd sliding tack..and i may well start racing it because A its perfectly ballanced, better that my libre witch is always rear heavy...
B it can hold more power than i could possibly imagine 
   (this exites me)
C its like my other lounge chair
and last but not least, it will scare the hell outa plummet and oh how thats gonna be a laugh  ;)  

in responce to your head/fork angle jimmy, i would only want to adjust the angles to alter the handling , rather than to overcome suspention sag issue,in order to get the swing arm level you would be adjusting geometry throught 20degrees or so.. on a mountain bike you would ,in this situation, wind in some preload....you wouldnt actualy alter the bike to compensate for the sag..i definently wouldt chose harder springs for any other reason than to ballance my weight, and it appears in this situation i am to heavy for the spring, but i dont want to change the spring feel, i really do love how plush it is but the fact remains that when im in the buggy iv used up all the travel...i like the idea of a diamiter increase...
the other thing i tried and it works, was a negative spring (very large elastic band)... with some pretention in the band i could agjust the sag to normal amounts (1/3rd) whilst still having a lovley soft and active suspention fork....but it was ugly as hell and probably required the bestpart of 15 kilos of backpressure to get the fork feeling right

i agree that wedges are damage limitation.as is the elastic band theory...but i think preload is the way to go somehow(not rider/buggy weight) but a spring on the fork to take the load and let the urethane do the damping..
the downder is who wants a dirty spring on their fork  :S  not me...they say the uglier the machine the grater the love affair but springs on my nice fork.....please, id rather take up blowcarting. wotwot..

but it would work and thats important. 



As far as i know your fork is made from my drawing plus peters usual tweeks (he even tweeks my ones) my drawing has some basic dimensions of the goose neck in order to make it work properly and the design is set to the MIDDLE hole of the three in the front of the swing arm to get the award winning trail ;)  (note: almost every sports bike has the same trail in the world now for the same diameter wheels as we run).  you can adjust it to preference though.  The elastic you mention is actually the very way the Original leading link is still set up on speedway bikes  , google leading link and speedway to get some ideas. they use more rubber bands to make the suspension harder and i guess different duros.  Im not as up with the play as most of you on setting up suspension ironically BUT i got the geomety right and did practical experiments to find the best dampening i could.  im just trying to work out how yours is that far out Al and why, i have seen the problem before but only on elastomers that are too soft, or not enough preload back bend of the forks. i am doubting the forks are a mm out so im thinking goose or elastomers currently and that your running the front hole on the swing arm, or have altered the hole spacing as the hole spacing matches my set geometry and hardness of the mount. we have 15 or 20 working world wide now so its just a tweek at this point :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: Stevoatlarge</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24742</link>
            <description>I like it. Never heard baffer before, but I can relate!

 Guster wrote: 
 Baffer: back and forther, or baffing </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24741</link>
            <description>my experience with springs and elastomers. .. . . .  skateboarding and mounatin biking, on my revo style trucks. is that you are far better off with the corrent spring weight/durometer and running no or very little preload to achieve the desired result. 

from what you explain (without riding it) i still recon for the heavier buggy your'll need heavier duro.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: ikite</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24740</link>
            <description>There were 3 buggies and a Blokart at Aromoana on Sunday - buggy riders are increasing in Dunners - although some of our beaches are pretty small.  We choose the beach based on wind direction - mostly Aromoana, Long and Warrington tho.  Hard to find a good place in westerly winds.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24739</link>
            <description>That's a new one... only heard of a baffer up till now. 
Baffer: back and forther, or baffing which is a session where all you did was go back and fort which is often related to crowded or lightwind session where that's pretty much all you can do.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24738</link>
            <description>The whole design of the elastomer has to be balanced as it’s both a factor of volume and surface under compression as well as the durometer. Since responsiveness has to be balanced to the hysteresis of the system, durometer plays a very important role. This is a factor of the system inertia, applied force and distance that the system is being acted through. Hence why I think there should be a subtle difference between the elastomers for a bigfoot compared to a barrow racer if not only for the fact that the swing arm ends up longer.

I placed a bevel on the elastomer to match the look of the original ones but I think the best design is to have the washer that supports the outer faces fully support the whole outer surface and bevel the washer for looks instead. This immediately increases the supported volume. If you currently have too small a washer it may be an easy test to slip in a larger one and see how much it improves the performance. 

While my barrow racer is superb I have a similar issue with my Moosetruck due to the weight of the downtube and front fork construction. I wanted extra weight in the front since I extended the length and needed to balance the design. However the elastomers are not designed for this weight so I also want to go larger in increments to see what it affects. Though it takes me a good day to machine a new set of molds to achieve this.

So what is coming:
New casting compounds.
Elastomers without bevelled edges so the washer will support the surface right to the edge.
New larger molds in 55mm or 60mm to test
Maybe try a cup washer as I see as much support for as against giving me an indication that issues are design specific.

Hopefully I have time left to get the oppertunity to kite too.   </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: Laurence</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24737</link>
            <description>Gupter. Do they have my picture next to it in the dictionary?  :-))</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24736</link>
            <description>Takes alot to scare the hell out of me Al but do your best! hehehe.

i'm hunkering for some landkiting but conditions here are more conducive to the water at the mo.....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: Stevoatlarge</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24735</link>
            <description>Thats good to hear I'm not alone! I'm not so keen on the cold either, the last time I went for a kite I got all geared up, pumped up, then chickened out because I was cold already and went home haha! But it is definately getting warmer ~

Where abouts do you guys go Buggying? I've never seen kites only some blokarts at Long Beach, I presume thats a good spot in a nor orwester?

The Harbour looked alright this Monday just gone but I was working...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24734</link>
            <description>yea, im not worried about the tramp in the moose, even my libre tramps when you push it out hard enuff.
and i compleatly understand the buggy isnt designed for hard sand racing or drifting..
i shouldnt really have been taking it as sideways as that but was just getting a feel for it...reality is thatyou only go that sideways when your coming to a stop...the only thing that would realy require it to be changed/fixed would be if i start racing that buggy and it starts tramping on a hard overpowerd sliding tack..and i may well start racing it because A its perfectly ballanced, better that my libre witch is always rear heavy...
B it can hold more power than i could possibly imagine 
   (this exites me)
C its like my other lounge chair
and last but not least, it will scare the hell outa plummet and oh how thats gonna be a laugh  ;)  

in responce to your head/fork angle jimmy, i would only want to adjust the angles to alter the handling , rather than to overcome suspention sag issue,in order to get the swing arm level you would be adjusting geometry throught 20degrees or so.. on a mountain bike you would ,in this situation, wind in some preload....you wouldnt actualy alter the bike to compensate for the sag..i definently wouldt chose harder springs for any other reason than to ballance my weight, and it appears in this situation i am to heavy for the spring, but i dont want to change the spring feel, i really do love how plush it is but the fact remains that when im in the buggy iv used up all the travel...i like the idea of a diamiter increase...
the other thing i tried and it works, was a negative spring (very large elastic band)... with some pretention in the band i could agjust the sag to normal amounts (1/3rd) whilst still having a lovley soft and active suspention fork....but it was ugly as hell and probably required the bestpart of 15 kilos of backpressure to get the fork feeling right

i agree that wedges are damage limitation.as is the elastic band theory...but i think preload is the way to go somehow(not rider/buggy weight) but a spring on the fork to take the load and let the urethane do the damping..
the downder is who wants a dirty spring on their fork  :S  not me...they say the uglier the machine the grater the love affair but springs on my nice fork.....please, id rather take up blowcarting. wotwot..

but it would work and thats important.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: ikite</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24733</link>
            <description>Yep hanging out for summer but keep at it over winter with buggying.  Out last Sunday and the week before.   Last winter I averaged once a week which was great.    Not keen on cold water!   Maybe some snow kiting next week.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24732</link>
            <description>hehe 10 to 30 thats a bit nuts. i had a clean 18-20 knots. but what looked like a thunder cloud started to role in i pulled pin. not too keen to have a kite in the air with the possibility of lightning!.

gupter = unco-ordinated fool.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24731</link>
            <description>What's a gupter?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24730</link>
            <description> plummet wrote: 
 where are you doing you speeds in nz Gavin? i'm presuming manukau harbour? 

Mangawhai estuary if I recall...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24729</link>
            <description>yep i grabed a shess at poo chev thisarvo to ,in 10 &gt; 30 kts it scard the shit outa me, why oh why do we do it.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24728</link>
            <description>wow 53 kts bro thats great but just imagine how fast ud go with a naish kite lol.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24727</link>
            <description>With that speed looks like yourl be right on target for the world record. good shit.

Worlds fastest pregnant woman then? no just kidding. 

Go for your life this year because once you have little nippers running around the house it'l get real hard to bust over to africa for speed kiting. 

where are you doing you speeds in nz Gavin? i'm presuming manukau harbour?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: Gavin Broadbent</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24726</link>
            <description>Thanks to my lovely wife for posting the info. Charlotte will be in Luderitz also as support. She would have been competing and would certainly have set a NZ Womens record and given the world record a good crack. Sadly, although excitingly at the same time, she will have a large baby bump going on by that time, so maybe next year.
Thanks for the reply's we will keep you updated starting right now:

Today in a hail/rain storm with winds of around 40 knots I ran a 53.36knot(98.8kph) 10 second run. This is the fastest 10 second run in the world for 2010! and the 2nd= fastest 10 sec run on the all time GPS world ranking(although I believe Alex C, Frenchy has a faster as yet unratified run)
Looking forward to some consistent 40 to 45knot Luderitz winds!
Cheers Gavin</description>
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            <title>Subject: Calling any Kiters in the Wellington Area - by: Jamesthecreator</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/10-international-visitors--tourists--adventure-seekers/24725-calling-any-kiters-in-the-wellington-area#24725</link>
            <description>Hello Anyone,

I have just moved to the Wellington Area and have been looking at the kiting spots around here. Haven't seen any kiters yet and wondering if there were any, and if so, you wanna go kiting sometime?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Ahh first kitesurf for well over 6 weeks - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24724-ahh-first-kitesurf-for-well-over-6-weeks#24724</link>
            <description>Just a cheaky little one this morning. clean wind, lumpy surf. rode like a gupter but still it was damn good fun to be out there again. 

refreshing



 http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/GOPR3223.JPG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: Laurence</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24723</link>
            <description>Hey man thats awesome, cheers!

I come in on one of the coastal tankers, there are two of us on that kite and another who weve almost convinced to get into it. Will definately give you a bell when we are in next even if its just to catch up for a coffee and talk kite (if of course you dont mind) always good to hook up with the local crews around the place. 

Thanks again.

Laurence.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24722</link>
            <description> Gannet wrote: 
 buggys are like cars there is No perfect car or buggy, Buses, sport cars, 4x4's they all do one or two things well and that's all,
as we will see this year, speed buggys will be developed into something different again. ;) 

Same with kitesurf boards and mountainboards. Good excuse to have a good vehicle dedicated to a purpose...or if you interpret that the other way round, a vehicle for each purpose. Good excuse for lots of toys if any!   </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24721</link>
            <description>You cannot have any negative camber in the axle when it is unweighted or unloaded. Else on the upstroke with the kite or in really bouncy situations you alternate positive to negative camber... really bad thing at high speed! 

Secondly, similar to the durometer issue you don't want to store energy, you just want to absorb it, damping oscillation and bounce out of the wheels in order to keep them in contact with the ground... breaking contact prevents you from loading up the kite and transferring the force into forward speed and motion. So a really good single fibre laminate is kinda out as it stores energy well and releases it which generates rebound. If you use double bias or triax you would have to lay it up so non of the fibres run lengthwise and due to it's nature the long fibres will still create a very stiff and lively laminate. Hence why I opted for chopstrand... not because I'm poor or because it is all I had to use but by design as it creates a dead laminate that dampens rather than rebounds.

This woodcore axle was my first and I was surprised how well it worked. Having the stub on centre prevents tramping and the wider profile prevents alternating toe-in toe-out, I would like it a little stiffer for my weight by adding core thickness but afraid it may make it too lively. A few options to test anyway...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Gannet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24720</link>
            <description>&quot; the force of the wheel bolt is not acting on the center of the axle in a slide and its winding up the axle&quot;

it just one of those jobs I didn't get back too,
and make new end plates to hold the wheel bolt on the centre line,

but the ski axle comes into it's own when you hit the dunes, it,s better than sliced bread and my carbon axle    

Taking one step back , I think the buggy was designed and build for the dunes , not the hard sand.
so, get the buggy off the beach.  :-D 

buggys are like cars there is No perfect car or buggy, Buses, sport cars, 4x4's they all do one or two things well and that's all,
as we will see this year, speed buggys will be developed into something different again. ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24719</link>
            <description>i'd spend a good day scraping the beach smooth then turn up the following day to find it all stuff up again. that beach changes significantly day by day. 

i used to let it piss me off. but with my current set up i quite enjoy it. it adds flavour and skill to what could be an otherwise average day. it certainly keeps you on your toes when your fangin over baby head sized rocks and 40+kph.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24718</link>
            <description>lets face it ski axle is just a quick,  cheap, easy trial. It will have issues as we can see of axle tramp plus torsional lateral and radial flex.  gannets carbon yacht mast axle is pretty damn high tech and out of reach by mere mortals. 

gusters wood axle is ok but i think a composite leafed shape would yeald a better result. think of a super long snowboard shape with a good 100mm of radius over the length of the axle. 

get the shape right and it will flex to flat for standard riding give a nice supple amount of negative travel and have a fairly high rising rate for harder hits. laying up  some solid layers of double bias on the 45's would give you great torsional rigidity


thats my 2 cents as a non buggier.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Northkite</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24717</link>
            <description>Looks like you boys had a great time!!!
I didn't make it there and I'm not going to make it to the Moose either :( 
The upside is......I'm of to Abu Dhabi for a year so I can play in the Dunes     :P  
I have been in contact with Sand Yeti and should have a buggy sorted for when I get there. 
Its going to be great not having to worry about the wind direction and whether the Tide is in or out!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24716</link>
            <description>preload to get a flat swing arm comes from the fork angle or head angle, wedges is damage control.  gotta see your setup to work out if its head angle or fork angle you need to tweak .  def not too much harder on the duro i have been there and its the crappiest solution, very harsh and almost no dampening.  softer is better but less controlled, medium is good :)  remember we have tried 7 different mounts now so its getting harder to improve on what we have.  you basically have axle tramp Al , it will be worse with soft tyres, the force of the wheel bolt is not actin on the center of the axle in a slide and its winding up the axle,  thats why an axle that is wide and thin works better in part.  petes foil axle is still the best one of them all to date, i haven't found one better so far.  Eugenes is probably the next best and is a good solution to build yourself.   As solid axle has been argued by the maker of the xx racer as the only good solution for pure racing, and his buggies are usually up in the top 5 so i would tend to agree for now ;).   i love how smooth perrin looks through the corners in that video,  well done once a gain ave it looks good</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: Gannet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24715</link>
            <description>You need one of these to clean that beach up  :-)) 
 http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/imgres.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24714</link>
            <description>At least you didn't quote me on the larger diameter rubber part!    I have to make a revo style truck before the Moose too... perhaps we can sort something out before then.

Definitely larger washers each end. Mixed reports about cupped washers though. Good excuse to expedite my press anyway!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24713</link>
            <description>nah use some harder urethane! say 85a duro! then you can sell me a smidgen so i can re-urethane my  trucks!  because its all about me!

i say flag the cupped washers. from my skateboarding back ground they always caused more tearing/splitting than flat washers.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24712</link>
            <description>We should have sorted you out with the rubber mudflap!

I have some new casting medium in different flavours. Flounder belly yellow flava to be exact. Unfortunately they like things dry and warm and I don't have the postcure environment if I have neither of the aforementioned right now(stupid winter) But I am working on it. 

I would not go harder either as you get less damp and more rebound. Instead we should look at larger diameter rubbers for you. Either that or a lighter buggy!  :P 

Waiting on delivery of a press ram to make some cupped stainless washers to help support the elastomers better and hopefully prevent the splitting and tearing. Slowly getting there...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24711</link>
            <description>well wind is a tantalising 13 knot onshore right now! but dammit i have to work and also have to use my lunch hour up with parent/teacher interview.... aaarg. 

maybe i need to indulge in some night kiting too? only problem is my local spot is interesting in the daylight with rock gardens, boulders, drift wood, deep puddles and random soft bits. it would be extreeeeeme at night time. i suppose i am not adverse to extreme. 

if i ever get back up to auckland and kite with you guys there's be photos and footage galore from all sorts of weird angles. the gopro takes photo's every 2 secs. so i can belt along behind dudes taking all sorts of auto matic photo's.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 1 Kite, 1 board, 2000KM and a world record? - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24480-1-kite-1-board-2000km-and-a-world-record#24710</link>
            <description>Well if you not reading yakers blog you should be. Sounds like he has had some real challenges! heres day 15 blog. 

Day 15
15
 
08
 
2010
 Today was one of the best and worst kiting days of the trip.
It was certainly the most mentally stressful day, mostly because I would be passing through “Shark Alley”, but also because of the extensive reefs that lead up to Recife.

One of the most common questions I get regarding long distance kitesurfing is “aren’t you scared of the sharks?” My answer is usually no, as the last fatal shark attack in NZ occurred back in the 60s. My lack of fear of sharks is based in a the stats which clearly show you are more likely to be hit by a bus rather than eaten by a shark.
However, there are a few places in the world where there are elevated chances of being attacked by a shark. Florida, Australia and South Afrcia all rate up there in the shark attack statistics, as does this area in Brazil:

A 20-kilometer stretch of beach that includes the most fashionable district in Northeastern Brazil, Boa Viagem, has earned a reputation as the world’s most dangerous for swimmers. Crime there is arguably no worse than in other urban beach resorts like Rio de Janeiro, but the shark attacks are unparalleled. Since mid-1992, 50 encounters involving humans and sharks –19 of them fatal – have been recorded along the short strip of coast. http://www.brazilmax.com ews.cfm/tborigem/pl_northeast/id/14

I have a love hate relationship with reefs as they provide flatwater which is great for kiting, but they are also a significant hazard.
Today I had a fantastic early morning run making the most of high tide, flat water and perfect wind angle and it was all going well until I ran aground on a sandbank at 9.30am.
I had given myself until 10am to head back into the open sea, further out from the reefs, but the sandbank hastened that decision. I attempted it several times but was unable to tack out though a nearby reef pass and eventually was forced to walk over the reef to get to clear water.
It was a really nervous moment crossing this reef and in the process I ended up dropping my kite on the reef.
Eventually I made it out to the open sea, but the relentless chop and difficult downwind angle didn’t make me any more comfortable so I opted to find the nearest habited sandy beach so I could find to check my kite and regain composure.
It took some serious effort to mentally prepare myself and head back out for an afternoon session challenging conditions, and the wind angle just wanted to pull me out to sea.
I thought the end of the day would never come and I was struggling to keep the kite in the air, as it felt like the lines had stretched again.
I was falling far too much for my liking (and for the potential number of sharks in the water) and I just wanted the day to be over.
I had been given some coordinates for a beach in Receife (which I was later to learn was named shark point!) and on landing I was greeted by fickle gutsy wind spilling off the high rises which forced me to pull my emergency IDS landing line.
I was greeted by this sign, but with some surfers in the water I was reassured that they would make better shark bait.



Feeling lucky?

I had to wait for 2.5 hours before I met up with my local contacts and then went for a late dinner, but the day wasn’t over until I had spent 45 minutes picking sea urchin spines out of my foot from the walk across the reef.
I am wondering if I will be able to kite tomorrow, but right now I am off for some rest and I’ll decide based on how I feel.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: doofus</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24709</link>
            <description>In those summer northeasters, launch on the kitchener st reserve, between the big dumb teeth and watercooled the windsurf shop. You absolutely have to be able to go upwind on your first run.  It's a pretty dodgy spot to launch.  OK for the locals who know the place, visitors have been for rides in ambulances..

If it's northeast and around 20kts avg on the www.portotago.co.nz meter at Taiaroa you can go to Stepney Ave in Harwood, a 30 min drive.  In these conditions the harbour will likely be 30+ kts.  Or go to Aramoana, either side of the mole (breakwall)

S to SW is Middle Beach from the park between Marlow Park and Moana Rua Road, or Lake Waihola from the domain near the waterski club.  Or Harwood again if you like it windy.

Or call me on 021 514 252

Ta
Craig</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: Laurence</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24708</link>
            <description>Hi Guys, was in Dunedin about a week ago with all my gear, we stop in there from time to time, definately jonesing for a fix and definately keen for summer! Quite often see guys jamming in the harbour, where are the best spots to launch?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: Gannet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24707</link>
            <description>That OK,

I could focus on my balance and turning the kite bike ( as Nigel doesn't talk much)
+ been dark was so cool, I'm going to do more night rides .

Nigel was to lazy to get the tripod out of the truck and then the camera battery went flat     

and I was having to much fun to stop and change up to the 7m frenzy. 
OH Well, at least the 4m access didn't drag me over the fence, I'm shore Nigel no mates would have just watched and laughed  :S 

the head lamp got a good run at the moose on the first kite bike outing weekend
so this was the second kite time ,it's well worth the dollars

&quot; actually relaxing helps &quot; should I say something ! I know you lot are thinking it.

HMMM   :-))</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24706</link>
            <description>blimey, even i could take a better picture than nigel, he sucks... talk about perspectivly challenged!! had i have been their i would have been able to get atleast 5 feet on him! 

   

im sorry gannet..
ill try and make it up to bou by taping a camera t my forhead and running round trying to take awsome pictures

i was suppose to be at that session with gannet and didnt turn up.not a very good team player...unfortunetly to many thworts and not enuf time on that occasion..biggest one was inability to get new buggy on the roofrack on my own and couldnt take it to bits as all tools at work.
have to build a towbar.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24705</link>
            <description>it was an epic session, love the vid dave.
flappy thing guster, was the batterd remains of my mudguard...god rest its soul.
the axle tramp hopefully wont happen in the moose, it only started during pretty hard drifts that you dont normaly get to do in the soft sand, also had the tyres pumped up very hard, i think if they were to be softer it will help kill the tramp, failing that im not sure what to do.
testing went well jimmy  ;)  nothing on the buggy broke atall...very happy with it.cant wait to get it in the moose.

guster, are you able to cast some harder urethane pucks? the ones in their at the mo are overly soft for the rig...i also wonderd about inserting a wedge shaped shim both bottom and top to offset the link so it preeloads the durometer to compensate for sag?...hat do you guys think about this??</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24704</link>
            <description>wow.its looks good n sunny even. i know it wasnt</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24703</link>
            <description>Nigel also seems to be slow to keep up and terrible at taking photos!    

I was there in spirit G. Used up all my brownie points in the shed the day before. Beach looked nice and packed after all that rain. Wind was perfect looked great for a 13m Frenzy kitebike combo too!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Guster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24702</link>
            <description>Love the look on Craig’s face when he nearly looses it on Charlie’s buggy.    

Al… like the new bug… but what’s with the flappy bit underneath for? Not surprised you are breaking lines either hooning around like that!   </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24701</link>
            <description>just the usual, going to docs tomorrow to try another angle.  
i have discovered actually relaxing helps, who knew doing nothing was so good for you ?!

in my maths nothing does not = good, so id better come up with a new formula

the house and garden are close to finished so then its just maintaining after that, could be a good summer.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24700</link>
            <description>nice vid :)  

al seemed to be trying the limits of everything !!  axle, lines, kites

well done Dave..</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24699</link>
            <description>whats wrong with you jimmy?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24698</link>
            <description>i just need to be fixed ;)

that is keen , first time with the new head lamp too perhaps ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: bikesandboards</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24697</link>
            <description>yeah - that was you guys - finally got out at Heliers come 5pm.  It was rather lush, if brief.  So that camera's pointing at Waiheke?  Makes it look REALLY close.  I'll g et to EB when the days draw longer...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Blue Balls Vid - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24696</link>
            <description>nice. looks like the boys had some fun. 

Al got a bit of axle tramp going on with that ski set up!.....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Blue Balls Vid - by: GerbilMaster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24695-blue-balls-vid#24695</link>
            <description>Here's the link to a short vid from the Blue Balls 2010 session in Raglan. Cheers.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywyD8K4AKg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24694</link>
            <description>5.45 in the dark? wowa thats keen.! man its been a month since i last busted out a kite.
i need a fix!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Mark T</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24693</link>
            <description>Dunno bout that camera but looks like it faces north.  North is crossonshore at EB.  Waiheke is to da NE.  Its not very gusty at EB at all... perhaps slightly more so than Orewa but way less crowded and no surge to contend with.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Mark T</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24692</link>
            <description>haha mite have been me... what time was it?  i kited on Thursday and Friday at EB.  Thursday was lit up on an 11m waroo and steeze board.  On Friday i was FULLY lit up on a 7m ozone and a 122 flx.  PUMPIN on Friday with a northerly... freakin epic :P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Now put your hand up if you went for a kite today! - by: Gannet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24179-now-put-your-hand-up-if-you-went-for-a-kite-today#24691</link>
            <description>   well,I,m still here, just a little snowed under.
 Nigel NO MATES and I went for a early morning hoon.
up at 5.45am . on the beach at 6
armed with the kite bike and the Ozone access 4m + my head lamp.
up and down the beach for a hour before day light, Awesome, with a max speed of 55.6 kms
then Nigel and I did some racing, figure 8 flag race ,
I had it all over Nigel , but he must have been on my tail all the way.
 Nigel is not very good at taking photos , but he got this shot

 http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/P8150016.JPG 

we packed it in at 8.30 and headed home for breekie  B)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: doofus</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24690</link>
            <description>yep, i'm ready for summer, tried to go buggying today but it was too light.. 

buggied last saturday and kitesurfed sunday..  actually not too cold..  

got my gear in the car for small afterwork sessions now that there's a little bit of daylight..

the watercooled thing shouldn't be too bad, just the parking might be a bit tight on a windy sunny day.. might be more room without the cars parking in there..

the council seem to be doing whatever they want.. 

Craig</description>
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            <title>Subject: Are you hibernating in Dunedin too..? - by: Stevoatlarge</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24689-are-you-hibernating-in-dunedin-too#24689</link>
            <description>Hey I know its still snowing and everyone is probably out snowkiting, but are there any kiters in Dunners hanging out for summer like me??

I'm curious with what they've done down at the watercooled launch spot too, has anyone been involved with the council over it? looks like theres still room rig up but I'm paranoid they'll throw in a giant tongue or something to go with the molars!?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: email booking scams  please read - by: ChrisG</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24688</link>
            <description>This scam has been around the hotel industry for years, I have hundreds of examples. They basically sucker you into charging a dodgy card then cancel and ask for a refund to be credited by bank deposit. Low and behold a month later the true card owner will call thier bank and the result will be the retailer has to refund the cardholder as well. Could be a costly transaction. Give them the bird    the bank can't do much.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JASON FROM KITE FORUM - by: kitesurfnelson</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/24685-big-happy-birthday-to-jason-from-kite-forum#24687</link>
            <description>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/7634_132956592044_527352044_2994791_6038757_n.jpg

Happy birthday Jase, looking forward to a catchup in Wanaka and be great snowkite shredding with you again!!

Cheers Shane A</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JASON FROM KITE FORUM - by: Michelle</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/24685-big-happy-birthday-to-jason-from-kite-forum#24686</link>
            <description>Happy Birthday Jason!!!    

Thanks for giving us a place to chat, vent, make friends and keep up-to-date even when we are not in the country.

(Sent from Hong Kong airport)

:)

Hope you have a great day!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JASON FROM KITE FORUM - by: Dan.j</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/24685-big-happy-birthday-to-jason-from-kite-forum#24685</link>
            <description>Think we all should give the guy a hip-hip-hooray for keeping our local forum open so we have somewhere to rant-chat-compare-winge-boast

So cheers Jase, hope you have a great day and all your birthday wishes come true.

See you on the snow!!!

Dan</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: Dan.j</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24684</link>
            <description>just to put some amp on it some more !!!!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4046664&amp;id=507170468</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: RIPD</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24683</link>
            <description>No wont get fined unlesss you cause an incident, But it is a shipping channel, be aware big arse ship might be crawling up behind you. 

if you want more info on marine regulations , can give you regs

cheers steve</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Kitey</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24682</link>
            <description>And gone is the wind this morning....     </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Niggi</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24681</link>
            <description>Hey Steve.
Thanks for the tip. I was in Takapuna today. It was really cool. But a bit gusty.
I was heading towards Rangitoto Island till i reached the fairway. Is it legal in NZ to cross the fairway? In Germany you have to pay a fine for crossing the fairway.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Kitey</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24680</link>
            <description>Orewa and Big Manly should be cooking tomorrow morning with a small kite. A bit of rain won't stop me.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: RIPD</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24679</link>
            <description>Hi niggi, from NW to NE kohe and st heliers is awsome, and busses drop you off at the beaches. have a load mor spots on my site www.ripd.co.nz

cheer steve</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 WANAKITE Snowkite Freeride - by: kitesports.co.nz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/6-snow-kiting-zone/23760-2010-wanakite-snowkite-freeride#24678</link>
            <description>Hey, There's only 2 weeks to go till the 2010 WANAKITE!
Conditions at Snowfarm are looking fantastic!

We've put together an event Tee &amp; Hoodie again this year...

http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#!/event.php?eid=116085141749324&amp;ref=ts

Available in black or white, both mens &amp; womans styles

email: tim@kitesports.co.nz with your order!

See you on the snow!

Tim B)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24677</link>
            <description>Welcome back :)

Al , point taken  ok we will wing it

meeting times and days remain the same.   

hard sand race is charley’s baby I’m sure it will be as epic as ever and fulfill our cravings, it just needs to be a fair and balanced course so race kites have some issues and so do stable slower kites, eg a good straight and some tight turns some where in there
(i like the course you drew Al, it has those qualities

soft sand is another story and we are in uncharted territory, i have some basic ideas but i see your point about wind direction. cant kite the shelly bits where the birds nest so it will be dunes one way or another, im sure we can sort it.  something shortish and basic so all can enjoy.  yip 3 races for soft  last two reverse grid to keep it close and fun for all. shortish races like maybe 15 mins or so many laps etc.   no helmet no race though, that’s virtually the only rule other than courtesy and common sense</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24676</link>
            <description>nope. fully intact. which a miracle because it was a week of insane speed, snow, rocks, roots and descending. now i'm hunkering for some hell kiting sessions..... but the wind is not playing ball this weekend.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24675</link>
            <description>no broken bones?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: bikesandboards</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24674</link>
            <description>so that was you I had to watch on the Eastern Beach camera whilst sat at work!  Left all my kit behind so couldn't go after.  Hey - which way does the EB camera point as it looks like there is an island right over?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24673</link>
            <description>ah ha i'm back and ready to heckle the buggiers again. 

heckle, heckle.....

ah...,.i have nothing to heckle about. bummer.</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: plummet</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24672</link>
            <description>good luck dude. thats some insane speeds. keep us posted with updates.</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24671</link>
            <description>howcome were having 3dune races and only one flat race?  is the flat race going for the western circuit chapms??
dude if you have practice on sat morn for a race and then the actual race a day later the wind is likley to have shifted, sure youl know the course but all your lines/angles will have changed and probably your kite size..best to have practice an hour before the race if the course is set by then...its all up to the wind, you can plan ahead forever but if the wind shifts on you itl change everything.
that track i drew is based on a S/westerly to ss/west....you can move it around abit but if you want your 750m long straight youl need a really low tide if it goes south orth..
i havnt even thought about southerly ortherlys....they only really leave you with shortcourses or somethin in the dunes, iv never been up ther in a northerly altho it would be very very good for getting out the back and home again... easterlys are great if your sitting at camp having a beer...southeasterlys are very cool and give you acces to the huge dune face on the solstice moose video.southerlys ar like northerlies but leave you stranded miles downwind and westerlies generaly get me airborn off most bumps.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24670</link>
            <description>hard sand ::::  meeting point on Saturday at 2pm at the camp entrance, where it hits the hard sand, the rest shall be told to you then. racing start shortly after
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Soft sand :::: practise on saturday morning , race meeting point 11 am SUNDAY at the kiteworks vehicle. racing shortly after

  all turns on soft sand will be down wind turns, ill draw a basic map of the intended layout for the soft sand event soon for comment/improvment.

i have 5 good flags for racing markers to bring for any race.

We need one hooter powered by breath or pump up bottle for the race starter

Rules : helmets compulsory, no Kevlar lines, buggy max weight wet and sandy , ballasted 60kgs. 

Al is making the moose soft sand trophy out of old scrap steel in a mystery shape.

3 official soft sand races first is a wide start all in, second a reverse grid from the first race finishing positions dnfs count as equal last.  last race is a reverse grid based on first two races points, points system by charlie. (im liking your F1 points :) )</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Mark T</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24669</link>
            <description>EB was ON today.  Fully lit on an 11m... NE to NNE angle? whatever it was it was kickin ass  ;)</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: who crashed across the road today at ST heliers - by: Mark T</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24571-who-crashed-across-the-road-today-at-st-heliers#24668</link>
            <description>i agree with johnnie.  dump at home or do it in da sea but please keep the beaches obstacle free so us kiters can wreck the scene without damaging our kit.  And pleeeeese get those old ladies walking their poodles OFF the beach  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Joe</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24667</link>
            <description>Hey mate, no idea about busses sorry...can't think of any that would be reachable but maybe some locals would know a bit more? Going to try and head out Saturday morning, rain pending.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Who Kitesurfs this week in Auckland? - by: Niggi</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24516-who-kitesurfs-this-week-in-auckland#24666</link>
            <description>Hey.
The forecast for tomorrow looks well. So i want to go on the water again. But I don't know where to go to and how to get there. So who of you is going out on the water tomorrow? And can someone maybe give me a ride or just tell me where I can find a kitespot which is reachable with the busses from Auckland Central?
Thanks and Cheers.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24665</link>
            <description>yea, a good long straight so everyone can get a bit lose, dont forget a lot of kites also go very fast on a broad reach aswell as upwind, also not fair if the racekites get away on straights aswell as upwind..its tricky, generaly the racekites seem to grow leggs after 60kph, wich should be plenty fast enuff for any race, after 60 you need a drag race so your atleast all going in the same general direction!!

top idea for race meet time noticeboard.....write the time of the race on an old bit of fabric and sent it up with a lifter so it can flap to its hearts content. nobodys gonna miss that....will look a bit wired, but it just might work.its the moose afterall, whiteboards are so boring these days.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24664</link>
            <description>I will happily wave the flags and hold the clipboard at the moose providing I can still get plenty of riding time.

The most crucial piece of info that needs to go out is the start time. That does not need to be decided yet but the moose is too big to go around looking for people at race time. We have had racing at the moose before where we have called people only to find that they were 2kms away in a dune. If people are serious about racing they need to know when to meet and actually get there.

Low tide saturday is 4.30.
The hard sand race will be sometime after 2pm probably around 3 or 3.30 if you want a big flat beach to set a fancy course.
If everyone knows when the pre race meeting is then we can just set the course have the meeting and start the race. 

A soft sand race can be held anytime provided there is wind but again people must know where and when to meet. If we can tell people in advance and have a notice hung up somewhere then everybody who is keen should make the start. 

I would be keen on having 2 hard sand races on the Saturday to decide the western circuit champs. A short course race to gather everyone up and get everyone warmed up and then a nice big race on a multi leg course with time between for kite changes and tweaking of buggies changing tyres that sort of thing. The short course could be run earlier on less beach. At the blue balls we had a great triangle course on a surprisingly small amount of beach.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24663</link>
            <description>yip looks good dude,  the idea is to publicize the courses in advance so everyone can practice the needed turns and get good at it , keeping the racing closer and more interesting.  if that broad reach is 750m long you are reading my mind Al.  jhust gotta keepo the upwind part real because some kites point much higher than others and we want to cater for all comers, the second up wind looks like a tack i s needed or a longer up wind and 180 up wind turn ,  cool :)</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: FOR SALE/SWAP: Flexifoil Rage 3.5m - by: Merkinz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/2-buying--selling-kite-sports-gear/24470-for-saleswap-flexifoil-rage-35m#24662</link>
            <description>Now considering $270. Lowest I can go... then its off to TradeMe.   </description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: email booking scams  please read - by: oceanxtreme</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24661</link>
            <description>i will tell you soon as we have managed to get 10k out of there card but am assuming that they want you to pay a third party the 7.5 k insurance then with draw there deposit saying the card is stolen.
i have the bank police doing some sort of sting operation on them 
interesting to see what happens</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Western Circuit race reports and points. - by: GerbilMaster</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24642-western-circuit-race-reports-and-points#24660</link>
            <description>Great weekend with really great people.
The live music was excellent and the conversation always ended up on the best of subjects...buggying !

Midnight...(well, 2am Sat) flying a 9M+ Peter Lynn Reactor II was a 'first' for me and to date the biggest kite I've flown, (thanks Craig)

The Raglan race was a chance to get more than just a couple of laps and try my first downturns in a race.
I'm glad I didn't have my GPS on board, as the track would have looked something like
a 2year old's representation of a spider...

Thanks to Charlie and his lovely family for the dinner and the hospitality.
Cool workshop and the second 'first' for me was the flying pig....   

I'll post a couple of pics here, but I got very few still shots and took much more in the way of video, which I hope to get up on youtube as soon as I can find time.

Awesome Weekend !!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: email booking scams  please read - by: kitesurfnelson</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24659</link>
            <description>Yeah, weve been getting those ones too.

Latelly its been the I need 20 wetsuits here's my credit card number, please send here. I have a freight forwarder that doesnt take credit cards, can you charge me and transfer funds to the  freighter through Bestwestern?

Yeah right!!</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24658</link>
            <description>the king of the rain race by charloie was proof that any race, nomater what format .... is cool.
anything is possible, everybody has ther own ideas...at the end of the day the race master makes the track and makes the roules and tells everybody how it works..
you definently cant make all thepeople happy all the time...it the course is fair for all involved and thats all you can do then thats fine, if you can make it intresting thats even better, if you can add a splash of fun then your laughing..

for me an ideal flat course would have a bit of everything but not complicated and easy to tweak for the wind conditions to get it to flow nicely..... a bit like this..
 http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/images/fbfiles/images/racetrack.JPG 

  


 its safe, got a bit of everyhting, faster than a shortcourse but has enuff corners to make it tactical.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: Western Circuit race reports and points. - by: northernal321</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24642-western-circuit-race-reports-and-points#24657</link>
            <description>it was a very good weekend, their really isnt anything quite like huddling up under a small, altho tardis-like (howmany kitebags+people in their!!) shelter, cunningly supplied by thoes who have seen it all before..
i loved it, altho a had a hangover on saturday that hurt a bit...i think i blame charloie.last time i was at the blueballs i had a hangover and if i recall propely it definently had something to do with you!!
highlite of the weekend was the powerkite song, my new hat and suicidejybes..or atleast some freaky version of one..i was fortuate enuff to be behind craig at one point where i wached him throw the kite up and over and from then on in it was getting the balls and the timing togeather to pull one off...so two sets of snapped lines later       
massive thanks to charloie, an awsome weekend...and the man knows how to put on a show and a race...loved it.
till next year..</description>
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            <title>Subject: Moose meet racing, off road and hard sand event - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24656-moose-meet-racing-off-road-and-hard-sand-event#24656</link>
            <description>following on from another classic event at the blue balls buggy bash hosted by Charley,  our focus turns to the next one...  the moose meet

events should be held on saturday and sunday of the moose so people who need to travel big distances can make it

hard sand race in triangle or more complex shape with all down wind turns, 750m long straights, hopefully with a reverse grid start over a good number of laps to make it interesting and give everyone a chance to have the lead for a time during the race.

and a dune race on a shortish narrow diamond shape from large dune crest to next large dune creast with turns on the face of the dune , also down wind turns . the basic idea is the dune race will not have unfamiliar terrain once a lap or two has been done but will be over rougher terain. (thats an idea that has been brewing for a while) perfect for the high tide time we will have.

Any and all ideas, assistance materials etc will be a big help. I am hoping our charley can continue the obvious success of his racing formats.  theres the base for discussion now lets build on it and make it a good one.

and i just need help keeping really sick people away from me long enough to attend this one.. !</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: The Termintor is back. - by: Fat Old Whimp</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24630-the-terminator-is-back#24655</link>
            <description>get well soon.</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: The Termintor is back. - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24630-the-terminator-is-back#24654</link>
            <description>i would like to test that theory, i have a couple of 2 line kites for craig and perrin to run next time out ;)   i can see your point, most kites we run have a good shot at a race win if in the right hands and there i a lot to winning a race.  perrin basically did the oposite of what i would have , removed his visor, ran a smaller kite, used very old bearings that wont even free spin 2 revolutions in his wheels, im so pleased he didnt kick my ass too.  But having said that i think id rather have been there to have that happen, still stuck in the car for work :(   

 Fat Old Whimp wrote: 
 It wasn't the kite that won it was the rider. Check the race report I just posted. Perrin made a strategic kite change just before the race in the rain and started with a dry kite. In the trophy race Craig made more mistakes than Perrin.
Craig was pulling away from Perrin in the trophy race and in the rain he was faster on several legs but Perrin got a much better start and had a steady pace.
Those vapours are hot but only as hot as the guy flying them and the buggy underneath them and the tyres that are sitting on the the sand.
The guy with the best pace on the first day was Thomas flinging  some baby pepper around the sky. He had some great runs but by race time his kite was too wet to be fast. </description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Raglan race day review. - by: Jimmy22</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/22870-raglan-race-day-review#24653</link>
            <description>now that was a race meeting !  right race right guy right time right beach 


 Fat Old Whimp wrote: 
  GerbilMaster wrote: 
 Brilliant day!!! 

As a newbie, it's pretty cool to have raced with some of the best in the country.

The 3.5 N-gen was a little small for the conditions but I'm hoping it'll go well in a stronger breeze. There seems to be a lot more to learn about flying it than I first thought. I think I'll be bending Al's ear on this one.

Raglan is excellent, I surfed it quite a few years ago but I now see it in another light altogether    

Racing is so cool, I just need a 20M kite and a bit more experience.......
Ok, a lot more experience first, and maybe an 8M for those low wind days....and a bigger buggy.
MMM.... must compose that letter to Santa. 


It was so good to have you along. I personally would not like to have been out in that race. It looked very busy. good on you for playing with the fast boys. </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: email booking scams  please read - by: Decay</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24652</link>
            <description>They want us to charge them for the course + and extra 7.5K insurance - most likely to a stolen visa. They they will ask for a refund in CASH/Cheque etc</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: email booking scams  please read - by: burr</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24651</link>
            <description>How would a scam like that work? They are not making any money, just dicking you guys around?..</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: email booking scams  please read - by: Decay</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24650</link>
            <description>They have been hitting us thick and fast for the last 3 months - on average twice a week. Total BS and even my spam filter is picking up on it.

Cheers 

DK</description>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: STOLEN BOARD SOUTH ISLAND - by: honza</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24627-stolen-board-south-island#24649</link>
            <description>board is back, thanks for all the board offers though, cheers honza</description>
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            <title>Subject: email booking scams  please read - by: oceanxtreme</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24648-email-booking-scams-please-read#24648</link>
            <description>hi we have just received 2 booking scams in the last two weeks
if you are unsure if it is a scam or not you can take some of the information in the email and google it and in the 2 cases below it came up with a scam posting in kiteforum.com plus others
good luck and be careful out there

Hello,
  I will love to make inquiries,for a a private kite Surfing lessons for a group of 7 adults for 4 weeks or more,depending on the routine of your  classes,this classes will run through the month of Aug through Sept,in between the dates  2nd/08/2010 to 2th/09/2010,if my request is granted,i  would be glad to also make plans for  training kits if possible or necessary, confirm as well if supplies can  be made for the group for  there training with you,feel free to make references to us about hotels,guest houses close to your training facility or site ,please advise.What are your payment option ?Do you accept 50% deposit via credit cards?Get back to me  in details with necessary information we need to know,enclose the total cost of your services plus $7500 for our medical insurance  which will given to our medical doctor for their medical insurance,or an estimate of the cost of this project,i await your suggestions and reply towards our request.hope  to hear from you soon.
 Regards
 Jim Black
 United Kingdom
 +447011132987



Hello, My name is Mr M Thurston I want to know if there is any availability for 14 students to come to your place for Surfing classes , they are all beginners and their first time surfing. If there is availability , kindly let me know about the dates,quotes and accommodation availability as well.They are looking forward to arrival by 4th October to 17th October 2010, They have 2 weeks to stay for the surfing Classes so that they can learn very well .send me an email to my mail box (micheal_thurston01@mail2world.com)
Arrival Date 4th October
Departure Date 17th October
Time 2 Hours every day
Rooms needed :8 single 4 double (or please advice the one you have available) Regards M Thurston</description>
            <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re: who crashed across the road today at ST heliers - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24571-who-crashed-across-the-road-today-at-st-heliers#24647</link>
            <description>i say move the toilets eh,i crashed into them bout ten years ago and its like hitn a brick shithouse, they dangerous i tell ya,if ya wanna crap,do it @ home. lov'n'peace uall.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: The Terminator is back. - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/4-land-kiting-zone/24630-the-terminator-is-back#24646</link>
            <description>hey charlie sup bro, i thought about it and its the thought that counts eh, but im sooooo broke like a nigga,oh i am a nigga eh hehe,anyway p said he almost terminated his self 2 beat craig, i dont know how that big south african boi moves so fast, the only way id beat him is with a cricket bat,like the black caps eh cur, (hey craig,hope u good cuz)hey p said we should all get drunk at urs this w/end cause ur girls goin away and now u wanna celebrate, dats the daddy spirit bro, big lov 2 the whanau. johnie</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re: 2010 Luderitz Speed Challenge - by: johnienz</title>
            <link>http://www.kiteforum.co.nz/kiteforum/1-kite-surfing-zone/24638-2010-luderitz-speed-challenge#24645</link>
            <description>jez gav aint u getn 2 old 4 this kinda carry on hehe,na bro just messn round eh,u go getm boi</description>
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