Hi All ,

this thread is up to discuss possible rules to help make a possible one kite series as enjoyable and close racing as possible.

Ideas for basic rules

Max buggy weight 60kilos, as per intl rules
Tyres up to 26" OD
Helmet must be worn

Kite strings 20m only ? or open between 15-25m ?

The idea is to keep it simple so any reasonable buggy can enter and anyone can join in but maintaining a degree of safety and keeping it inclusive and fun.

Its basically stock class racing in a way.

More extreeeeeme rules but even closer racing would be barrow tyres only, i cant say im personally on board with that one but i can see for newer folks it would be awesome. Then one day soft sand on the course would = gravel trap hehe. To me its better to race what you got.

obviously feed back is required as the format should be made to include as many people as possible who have a buggy and are keen.

simply the most fun racing i have done this year was the persuit racing with charlie.

short and sweet. whoever passes who first wins. one mistake and you loose. its a great leveler and less reliant on having the best upwind equipment.

in those races it was boader versis buggier depower versis C-Quad!

i think the only way to have a fun race where everyone can join in is that its totaly open class,no limits or restrictions

owen my work mate for example, dosnt actualy have a set of barrows, just bigfoots....so could he still race?? my buggy weighs at least 60k and if i diddnt have my v-max could i still race?? i think a class system is to restrictive in nz, our kit is far to diverse.

the one awsome thing about this race it that the kite is the great leveller...it changes everything...sure if you have 5 knots and were on 3m kites the fattest guy with the biggest buggy will probably lose to kid in the micro buggy....but thems the breaks as they say...and so be it..the fat guy would win if its blowing 30knots..assuming everybody could fly the kite the same thats the way physics makes it happen.

the only way to make a race like this truely level...ie, pilot skill is the only factor is to make all the buggys/kites the same and ballest the buggys up to the rider with the gratest mass...you would even have to put the ballast in the same place on every buggy to avoid handling differences..this isnt possible yet and so i think this type of race definently lends itself to a fun race as even the greatest skill can be beaten by mass/weight benefits.

BUT how about kit swapping, for example....if its not windy, the fat guy gets the micro buggy and the kid gets the truck? not perfect but i bit of kit swaping never did anyone any harm.

yeah ,I was thinking about Conrad no doubt coming along with the BF reds , of course no one would be refused a race. Im also thinking about my buggy(s) I could basically bring a buggy to suit the conditions which could put off beginners perhaps but i would really like to run what I have, personally.

i think 20m lines only of the same type could be good. We could learn a lot from racing with the same kites and lines it could be very close indeed. But we could also learn a lot about lines by trying long / short etc while running the same kites.

The main idea is to get newbies and pros to come along and have fun.
So max Method size is to be set on the day( so a newbie is not over powered) or posted earlier.
STD Method lines and handles ( Turbo Bar is allowed)
The only restrictions for the buggy is barrow wheels only.(This does not apply in NZ)
The course maybe set on the day , but a simple two flag figure 8 , with No up wind turns and flags at 500m x 10 laps (so newbies are insight )
The main thing is to keep it Fun for all.

line lenth to me is still up their with the building of the piramids and how they make coke...

i know i was very glad to have a micro 8m set attached to an n-gen during the big squals at the nutbuster and was fantastic during the balls of tag for changing direction, heaps of fun but no grunt whatso ever, was all down to working the life outa the kite and then apparent would feed in, crashed the kite so many times just due to no airspace...my 2,5 blurr is on 15m and diddnt want to take it out as even 15m would allow the kite to generate to much pull if given the chance....thers definently importance in the duration of the powerstroke but i think it actualy comes down to personal feel..

say 20m over 40m the 20m set could generate almost the same amount of tourque as the 40m set in the same amount of time exept you can pull out twice as fast if you want to...

the 40m set can generate twice the amount of lifting time if you want to get airborn
the 20 m set can have the kite anywhere in the sky you want in half the amount of time it takes the 40m set....which is best??? i have no ideam but i know i love short likes and fast kites, it think it makes flying them more fun....but i know sometimes i crave the raw tourque of a 40m set of lines.

northernal321 wrote:
[quote]line lenth to me is still up their with the building of the piramids and how they make coke... [quote]

hehehe love it...


also the 15m has less drag than the 20m for super long hauls.

id say if i ran the full length of murs 15m would be the go as starting is 0.0001% of the journey and the 15s would go pretty fast. short course then 20's would be it as getting off the corner is important and 25's tangle too easily with others lines as i discovered at moose 2009.

I like the concept of 20's and it makes for close racing

Jimmy22 wrote:



Nice to know ur thinking of me hehe

..got barrel wheels as well. BUT cant make this sat anyway

thats cool dude , hopefully its more than a one off and it looks like NZ will go with any wheel 26" or under. But i would like to see a barrows race one day