I've got a Manta II coming
I've got a Manta II coming
do da do da day

...and you been getting them singing lessons too. Unless it's the kite that does it 'cause Plummet sings that exact same tune. Fo'sure!

oh no. wheres my advantage going to be when we hit the 90mile? no more changing of kites every 3 minutes from the gannet.

eta?

i expect to see some glorious dune gliding video footage in the near future.

And guster i'm going through a rage against the machine phase at the mo so heres my latest song.

" hgggh!!!
The rage is relentless
we need a movement with a quickness
you are the witness to change and to counteract
we need to take the manta back!
hgggh !!!"

while on the suject of new kites I just gotta new smaller Speed. The race is really on now

See what I mean? Maybe altitude sickness?? They all get giddy about their Manta's. Gonnit hasn't even got his yet! Then again I get a little giddy flying my Ozone Instinct too!

Sad face: I have a brand new quiver of Speeds I haven't flown yet and it's almost kitesurfing weather again.

PS. is it orange or pink?

na, the bidding got to hot.
so I did the next best thing....and got a new one all 10m s of it

guster Dixie is talking Flysurfer Speeds.

What size dixie? 8m or 10m? did you consider the physco4? that was supposed to have MASSIVE depower and wind range.

Choice Gannet! Just not the same thing hooking big manly jumps with a pink kite...

Ooooh those Speeds.

shotgun on the yak 7.3, 5.0 and 3.4 blade 4 6.5 and blade 4 4.9 that gannet doent need anymore. hehe

Phwoar that Yak 7.3 is a doozy!

Anyway, he's not giving up racing... just taking up a more 3D aspect of kiting! :O)

i recon he'll still need the 7.3 yak and maybe the 3.4... hard to tell. the manta will sit somewhere between the 6.5 and the 3.4 in power and wind range. it will be interesting to see the wind range difference between board and buggy. also will the mighty gannet get a handle on the different flying style?

gannet be prepared for it to take a couple of months before you start extracting the goodness.

ps have i mentioned the looping power? be carefull looping when the wind is up. it gives a very powerful WANG.

plummet wrote:


Bit of a cheat here Dave, I got a 5m Speed for my daughter, managed to pick it up for a song from the Flysurfer dealer over in Perth. Never been used and I have been looking for eons for something for her.
Another bonus is it will become my ultra high end kite.
Beauty of these kites is you can play around with the bridle settings to suit your needs. I'm still in the market for an 8m Speed 2, but they are real hard to get hold of. Maybe now the Speed 3 is coming out a few will pop up.
Never looked at the Pshyco, cant see past my Speeds at the moment. hoping to catch up with Brad in Nelson over the summer months, maybe he can change my mind....lol.
The Speeds are supposed to have massive depower, but all they do when you push the bar out is accelerate like a Ferrari, you need huge amounts of back foot pressure to point your board upwind, but they go upwind like nothing else when you get the hang of them, and jumping, lets just say they are the best kite I have ever had for this.

ooh 5m speed..... yourl be able to come out with me and butch in a storm 35-40 knots and attempt land speed records with that beast. better tighten the trucks on your landboard for such sillyness!!!

do some research on the physco. i have a review of it in a mag and they rave about the depower. apparently it pulls the wing tips in and changes the profile from flat to C shape for reduced projected area. my understanding is the psycho is a faster more brutal kite than the speed.....

I'll need a different board to the one I've got, Skate trucks dont handle those sort of speeds. I have looked many times at the Pshyco 4, but I have never tried one so I cant make an informed decision.
The guys on foilzone still reckon the Speed is a better jumper with more hang time where as the 4 is more of a free style/wave rider. You got to remember I'm pretty old school, going high and long is my kick, not all this flippy handle pass stuff, I'm too old for that...lol

Dixie, i though you bought a set of MBS vector trucks? they should be pretty good for speed runs if you tighten em up. even flip the axels so the deck sits lower.... maybe im wrong but i swear it was you who had the vectors before me.

theres guys in uk doing 40mph on skates..... mad buggers. ps yes i get what your saying re old school. my style is dead sailor style./.....

ZenoN wrote:


I did, but I'm not sure I could get up to 40 or 50 kph with them. I,m heavy too...
If I give it a go and it gets messy I'll blame you.......lol

Jimmy22 wrote:



I'm glad someone knows what's a the garage
but I bet you couldn't find them all in that mess
I know I can't
even when I leave them at the moose

ps, you missed the 3.5 rage and the 2.5 burr

pss, who's up for a in kiting fun then,I'm free for 2 months

Have a feeling Gannet will still hold onto all his other kites. The Manta has range and stability for jumps but it still ain't no speed machine! Best dune cruiser though, in the right conditions he'd have no problems getting in and out of trouble!

Don't you have a buggy to build?

"Don't you have a buggy to build? "

now mention it
what should I build ?
I've only got 3 buggys in the garage ,but there's still room for another
Oh , the misses would string me up
because, there's no room for her car anyway.

your missing a full carbon landboard in your quiver for when you feel the need to stand up and inject your self into some real sphincter puckering kiting! hehehe.

hmmm, landboarding
I didn't know you could use dirty words like that on this forum

Gannet wrote:
[quote]Jimmy22 wrote:



I'm glad someone knows what's a the garage
but I bet you couldn't find them all in that mess
I know I can't
even when I leave them at the moose

ps, you missed the 3.5 rage and the 2.5 burr



Um no i didnt , id have a 3.5 blurr i rekon and i already have a 2.5
the 7.3 is the gem , actually all the yaks are sweet. I was well pleased using the 7.3 last time you went oseas, i had 3-5 knots MAX and i got 54kmph on a down winder that day is still a highlight for me. It was like i was cheating. My 6.0m yak is pretty funny too the beginner kite surfers see me ripping along and get all keen and then find they cant even get the water kite to fly let alone go 40+ kmph hahah, sorry kite surfers Ive been there too

Gannet wrote:


Some suitable landing gear would be my best guess!! I have a great axle design for that too.

I believe the forum word filter may be European and allows such dubious vocabulary like landboarding to slip through. Reminds me I have some fijian kauri set aside to make one or two of those...

Not many kitesmurfers have big boards and kites either. I remember when an 8.5 Cquad was the biggest kite I ever thought I'd need and now own more than one kite bigger than 16m. Curious what the minimum range is for a kiteboat?

Hmmm, the manta is on the slow boat
there's 3 kite surfers out on the beach , may just go and join them ,2pm low
nothing better than making virgin tracks all over the beach

I have the manta ,the manta, do da day
and what a sexy piece of kit she is
now just need to get to the beach,were is that moon when you need it
may have to wait till the weekend
but it may take me that long to work out what line goes were
or maybe I better read the manual on this one

it can't be easier. its numbered 1,2,3,4.
just watch the steering lines are 2 the outside and not looping around the power lines. Its easy to do. (i've done it myself a couple). if you do that the lines rub and give premature line wear.

Love the smell of fresh tejin in the morning then?

Gah... you gonna love it but you are to blame for the crap weather this weekend! New kites and all.

I'm looking at getting my snow kit sorted and mayhap have to set me up a foil on a bar...

I got the 1234 bit,
I was looking at the three safetys,
primary security
chichen loop security
and a kite leash safety

is it just lulling me into a false sense of security

the weather is looking a little better
a couple spots of rain won't keep this kite in the bag

sunday 13 to 19 knots westerly

the manta slept in my bed room last night
all the other kites sleep in the garage

Those other kite would just get jealous.

Nope, just a lot more power to deal with when things go wrong which do tend to happen. Kite is kinda intended for snowkiting. You want an good couple of 'outs' when you are faced with boulders, trees and shear cliffs or drops.

Next you're gonna want a board...

"boulders, trees and shear cliffs or drops"
Ok you could be onto something
good thing we don't have any hazards like that on the beach or moose

we only have horses,dogs, people,motor bikes, 4x4 drive,mazdas ,drop offs,burnt out cars,beer bottles and lets not forget the toxic sea slugs

"Next you're gonna want a board...'"
I've never been boarding (to old)
but give me a set of twin tip 90cm snowblades and a manta,
Oh, I got that bit already

the leash is if you want to go unhooked.... don't bother with that. get used to how the primary safety works... the top hat thing. pull that and the kite will dump on the rear lines.

i've never had to pull the secondary chicken loop safety.

sub 15 knots launch straight in the powerzone. over that got for edge of window launch. perhaps leave 20+ knots for not the first time. i'd suggest put on a harness and do some skudding and jumps first to get a handle on the lift/power. then dive into the buggy.

you will have to really fire that kite back to get lift on the flat in sub 15 knots. particularily since you can't provide the jump with your legs. as usuall re-direct hard for a floaty landing. in the dunes the lift will increase significantly. it does feel weird when you start gliding backwards down the slope.

lastly when the wind is above 20 knots it starts getting hard to land the kite solo. remember its a 10m2 piece of fabric. it has a load of power sittong on the brakes or on the safety when the wind is up. sometimes the only thing you can do is pull on one steering line and sheet the kite out. of course if you have a spare jimmy lurking the he can catch the kite for you.

thank for the good tips.I'm going to read that again so it stays in.
and doesn't every one have a...."spare jimmy lurking "

yes, at the BBBB i saw plummet looking a bit weary of landing his kite in the higher winds we had, i think it was a bit novel to have some help, usually he is the loan ranger and doenst have the buddy option. Im looking fwd to the murs beach cleanup on sunday and seeing ganet surf the air, the wind will be pretty sweet by the looks.

Never to old to board... unless age prevents learning new tricks. Though I do sometimes feel to old to be wiping out but that's more due to what I'm doing before wiping out...

The leash is just there to keep the kite if you unhook and let go or pop the chicken-loop safety and the leash safety is just if you find the kite attached to say.... runaway horse or other vehicle while getting dragged. If you happy with the primary and don't think you need the chicken-loop release I'd also say do without it. The backline strap is the best ditch... if you can reach it which is also easier said than done when sitting in a buggy and not being blessed with long arms. There was a long time I surfed with a stainless ring to a snapshackle on the harness instead of a chickenloop. It also meant nobody else could borrow your kite unless thay had the same harness.

Sounds like theres a market for a Jimmy... start a cloning program.

congrats on the new kite gannet
im really happy for you
i hope you love it and have many happy hours in the sky
im so pleased someone finaly has a depower, i felt bad showing you all up with my arc,s

sounds like a moosing is in order...who is taking ther kit to the clean up on sunday? it would almost be rude not to wouldnt it?? also, should we bring BEER

thanks for the kind words

"who is taking ther kit to the clean up on sunday"
it would be rude not to

"should we bring BEER "
as above....it would be rude not to

the news of the day
my buggy is getting lighter
I finish machining the titanuim BF front axle
taking 2mm off the out side was the easy bit
drilling a 8mm hole through the middle and tapping the m12 thread was a female dog
but it's done now and it weight is 0.330kg
the 2205 s/s one ,weight is 0.701kg

so, I'm not shore if the 4 hours to machine it, + the cost of material was worth it
but if your got the only carbon leading link on the planet for a kite buggy you just have to have a titanuim axle to go with

here here......
but now your going to have to spin your own rims from some clear palstic so we can see it!!!
or you could get a sticker "titanium axle inside" but somepeople might get the wrong idea
but who cares, youv got titanium and carbon bits...iv got a bike with titanium and carbon bits, its the best bike in the world....
i think it buys you a "your going to let me overtake you" ticket, just on the fact you have a pimped out axle.
awsome.

"i think it buys you a "your going to let me overtake you" ticket, just on the fact you have a pimped out axle."

Iknow I was thinking when I wrote it ..what a tosser
but after all that work I had to tell someone

and as for a good whipping , I'm up for it ,shell I wear a dress or just the gimp suit again

i think your vader threads from the bbbb are the true modern darkside buggy dresscode thesedays...gimpsuits are so last season.

i think yourl have to become captain carbon. and carbon yourself a super hero costume....


mmmmmm titanium axle. i considered titaium for my board but fell over and died when i found the price of 5/8 titanium rod!


ps i'm sure i've said it about 3 times but watch the power on the loop on the manta. I know you guys love to downloop at the end of a run. be prepaired for a WANG downwind. remember the manta is designed to have powered loops in light wind to haul snowkiters up steep slopes. 16knot downloop will be VERY powered.

PSS if your not getting enough air go faster. manta loves speed. its not a pull on the bar and go up kite. 30-35kph+ leads to nice floaty air time. infact time the send back and re-direct right and its like taking off in a plane. you watch as you slowly ascend into the heavens and then glide as if attached to a zip wire..... oooh glorious stuff.

i dont think tosser is the right word really, i think more......gannetthewelder
still cant quite get to grips with our new possible whitnesing of the new sport "buggy soaring"
i feel its going to be quite good,
arc,s can soar, they really can

new sport from down under "buggy soaring"

hmmm, track and field buggy style
100m,200m 400m , high jump, long jump,100m hurdles
I think this is going to hurt ,more then a normal

carbon super hero costume

so if I get this right, to make the manta move I have to tent pole the bar on
launch with the bar hard in, only when it blowing over 16 knots
should I use a harness or do this locked in

not quite that extreme. if you tent pole the bar too much then yourl enter the realm of kiteloops..... oooh. all i'm saying is under 16 knots you need to work it more and haul in with more speed. the faster you crank intro jumps the less you have to send the kite behind you.

hehe carbon yourself a fake chest complete with carbon 6pack and titanium nipples.

got that,take it easy or the manta will do some sore-ing of it's own

hmmm, titanuim nipples
and the 6pack I have been working on that for about 6 months,
been doing press ups and chin ups each day
prep for the 500 ks as I don't think I'm going to get it with out a good fight
having arms above your head for 16-24 hours is going to have some pain

I went kite fishing today (2 fish)
a light easterly 3 knots
but it wasn't 16 knots,
so I let the manta get a feel of some west coast black sand


I'll try her with the buggy tomorrow as the wind is
WSW 14 to 18 knots
with some wet stuff now and then

Low is at 11.17am so any time after 8.15am

ooh yeah 14-18 is right in the zone... i await the corresponding write up.

woohoo
did it all today
had a bit of fun work out what works best
buggy, bar ,trim,

as it turns out, I had to cleat it in a bit and then use the bar to up and down the power
awesome jumps , the best been about 2m high ? and about 10m long
and yes, she even spanked me
I landed in the soft sand and had pulled the bar around to much in the jump,
so the kite was back in the power
the buggy bounced 5m into the bank or was that me
at lest I got to use the primary security
before it try to drag me and buggy over the hill
there is always a + side to everything

after that I did some speed runs , then some more jumps on the hard sand.
max speed for the day was 55.4 kms
can't wait to moose her (that sounds rude)

hehehe. sweet stuff what was the wind speed?
ps i find mine flies best without any trim. even when the wind is up. trim in and it has less lift but but power delivery is too punchy.
photo's? did anyone document with video and the like?

ps 2m high and 10m long is a big jump! no easing into it from the gannet..... just straight into it!.

i'm quite glade your in the buggy and not a board or yourd be showing me up!

pss imagine what the jumps will be like in the dunes! when the manta's on a hill you know thats what its been made for!! its great on the flat but down right insane on the hills....

Hmmm , I thought that was taking it easy
I didn't jump the creek, was looking at it once or twice
maybe next time

wind speed about 10 knots with the a odd gust at 15 ish knots

" i find mine flies best without any trim. even when the wind is up. trim in and it has less lift but but power delivery is too punchy"

me to, that was on the speed runs ,
the bar is so light with the cleat trimer pulled in(centre)

the bar trimers didn't do anything for me as I had enough power