www.vimeo.com/2206355

ummm.. O_o cant say ive seen anything like that before

hehehe... abit too much splatter movie and not enough kiting action for my liking. obviously an add for ground industry boards?

twas amusing tho.

Not the Kiwis cup of tea eh?...#
I thought it might be a bit dark for you guys....
Ah well, ya cant please everyone....

Butch

wtf was that all about :shock:

different thats for sure........ not really sure what i think of it. its nither bad nor good in my opinion lol. Some good editing bits in there tho.

eah bit scary, where do you think i can get some red overalls ?

its just that i dont have a van yet and ......

so are you moving to raglan to be near the ozone testing base there Butch ? do they develop the yaks too or is it too far away from the euro buggy action ?

Jimmy,
Raglan, Theyd like me too, but i wanna start my own school, and Raglan already has them. I have my eyes on Himitangi at the mo. Somewhere i can start up and create a wee local scene and train kick ass landboard riders.
Not sure about the Yakuza bro, Europe is defo the place for the testing though.


Butch

not many people in the himatangi/pnorth area to train is there?
i suppose punters will come from miles around to witness the mighty Butch.

Second problem. almost nobody landboards in nz.... yourl have to grow them from scratch... or is that your plan? create a tribe of butch juniors to roost the tangi?

i'll come from miles away to witness to the mighty Butch but alas am too old and (main reason) soft to become a kick ass kgber.

chch has a small growing core of landboarders... but only 3 of us i know that actually get off the ground.

may be worth a trip up in the future to correct all the bad habits i seem to be picking up...

Im in!! Need to get some decent training but more just a confidence boost seeing others do moves that then have the effect of me insanely thinking i can also do them, failing and then getting up and trying again till i do.

Thats what we need. And yes we start em young grow them tough and send em sky high.

I disagree, theres Massey University, Wellington is jus down the road, theres plenty of people about, and the beach is world class for land kiting.


well thats why im gonna train em up. The reason nobody landboards is cause they dont know about it. And anyways, if they are already landboarders, then they wont need training. Give the sport a bit of exposure on the right stage and youd be surprised how much interest you get. Get a few people stoked on landboarding and the rest will follow.
Youre looking at it the wrong way bro!

You say theres only 3 in Chch not even getting off the ground? Imagine if you could get off the ground, and people saw that, they would be amazed, and want to have a go... Thats where i step in...haha

Look on the bright side .....

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There's at least 3 in chch and they are getting off the ground. Just had an awesome friday night sess on the buggy and Zenon and (A.E.O.B. syMptom were both out doing heaps of jumps. There are at least another half dozen who come and go through out the summer.

you miss quoted me... 3 of us do jump. and many more do come out for a cruise now and then.

love slipknot, love the film. more boarding next time tho please 8)

great news about the school! i know at least half a dozen green newbs that would be up for a weekend of tuition. about time kiting really kicked off in this country, its so frickin amasing for it. i think the main prob people aren't out there is cost, we need kites, boards and buggys made in this country and sold at new zealand prises. all power to you butch 8)

I don't just think its just cost and things to be made here as Peter Lynn made kites in NZ for years before moving manufacturing to Thailand to keep costs low and stay competitivein the industry. And after all the invention of the buggy (the original traction sport) was created by PL, i do think in NZ population size has a big bearing on how many people do any said sport and with sports like cycling(mountain and road) and golf having a huge amount of participants there is not just enough people to go around.

There are many more sports that get more exposure and money thrown into it than kiting sure the cost doesn't help but a good mountain bike will set you back $3000 and so will good set of clubs (serious users i'm talking about) so there is the money out there and there is always loads on trade me for beginners.

The thing about weather dependant sports like kiting is to get the most out of it you have to be prepared to drop everything when the conditions are right, otherwise you spent a lot of money on something you may only use a handful of times a year. Therefore kiting becomes a life style. It is growing, though we just need to give more exposure and take the time to talk to people with questions and get people out trying it in all its forms, as my addiction started with delta stunt kites and i have taken it from there.

speaking of trade me , thats a real good way to put folks off kiting and hurt them. The sale of a large kite real cheap with no instructor or kiting buddies is a bad start. Butch has skills beyond most of us mortals, possibly all of us , it would be great to have his tips passed on to you lot. no doubt some plumbing will help keep the business going too

how many of you have seen someone trying to kite and with no idea and about to make a major mistake ?

Its not just the secondhand gear on trade me that sell large kites to beginners i have seen kite shops do it to just for a sale, that is partly why there are so many kites with only used a couple of times. Unless you are in the main centres in NZ there is often no availible instruction. The CHCH crew do our best to help people out when we see them down the beach though everyone seems to have their own ideas about kite flying and some we never see again.

You can also get very cheap large kites for pansh over the internet no questions asked with a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen. Though my main beef is the cheap rubbish kites on trade me from china that don't even fly properly that also puts people off kiting to.

Now this last part is how i see it in NZ and correct me if i am wrong Please.


Question of instruction is also a hard one when i started buggying in the uk there was only a handful of professionally qualified instructors( through the then Birtish Buggy Club now the BPKA) in the country so getting instruction was expensive so most taught themselves then their friends and so on. And from what i see here is the similar for the land based kiting anyway and don't know of any professionally qualified buggy instructors. By profesionally qualified i mean that in the UK as a business to teach people you need third party insurance and for thrid party insurance you need to be a qualified instructor by the sports main governing boby(i.e. BPKA) I don't think the law here requires you to have third party insurance so therefore there is a small number of qualified instructors in the landbased kiting area.

In summary it's not just Trade me that is bad for the sport but its the whole selling of kites without instruction that is the root of this problem and possibly the lack of information availble to the public what is a good kite and where to buy. Its moral responsibilty of kite shops to provide instruction to first time buyers espeacially where traction kites are involved and this should be free for the first time flyer as well. There is also need for a governing for education, training and possible insurance. The best way we can push landbased kite sports forward is to help people out with there over sized first kites, be polite to the general public and apolagise for close calls and be safe wear a helmet it will save your life.

Hey butch that sounds like a plan man - I can see you pulling that off. It will be like Branny in the early days, except without the risk of it becoming an overpopulated victim of it's own success!

Himatangi is a sweet spot - get that established as THE spot for NZ Landboarding and you're away. Jeez people would travel from all over the country to fly at Branny, and you've Wellington just down the road from Hima in comparison. Good Luck!

if it wasn't for trademe and really big cheap kites i wouldn't have my one and only 16m venom which i got way back...

agreed trademe has a good up side, i guess its really the sellers fault. kites larger than 1.5m2 should by law have a wind range printed on them so the manual doesnt need to go with the kite to convey that.

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your right. it only takes one individual full of passion to build the stoke and grow the sport.


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"build it and they will come" is a statement that comes to mind.
i recond himatangi would make a great event location to like the blue balls or moose meet. just needs someone to orgainse.

To this date i have only seen 4 other guys get air on a land board and the highest was about 3 foot. so i'm craving seeing someone whose good get some real air.

i myself only really get upto 5-6 foot of air (apart from various unplanned 10-15 foot boosts) and do no tricks. So an intermediate lesson to go to the next level of air may not go a miss.

i suppose in winter time you could offer snow kiting lessons on ruapehu also.

Guys,

Sorry for misquoting you guys earlier, i read it wrong..... :oops:


Cheers for your support Shane, i knew youd see the wisdom in the madness. Itd be great if a mini Branny scene built up. Those were the days...


i reckon Himihawaii has it all, Loads of beach, buggest dune area in NZ, and some sweet lil waves as well. Although i have one concern so far bout that bit of coast. I got my Mum to keep wind stats for a year for me from Himitangi and although its windy nearly EVERY day, it changes fron NW to SE every 3 or 4 days, and back again. Im unsure wether there is a spot round there, maybe a rivermouth or summin, that supports a SE. If not i may have to think again as there are alot of SE days... Anybody know of any spots?


Cheers bro, ill do my best but will obviously need support from a kite scene that i am a stranger to. I cant wait to get it off the ground.

Butch

i'm not sure last years weather is a good indication as there seemed to be a good amount more E winds than usual.

but i agree if its eastery your fairly stuffed on the beach.

however there are tones of massive flat/roling hill pattocks around that could he hit in any wind direction. in particular i marvel a the glorious paddocks near bulls, sanson. if you found a freindly farmer there yourd be covered for land kiting for all winds.

Hey butch
I'm in Palmy and I landboard more than I kitesurf these days. I often have people come to me and ask if they can try, so there is potential.
Keep us informed and I already have a few people I can send your way.
I used to teach people to kite in the early days, but now I can't be arsed as I like to kite myself too much. It would be great to have someone around I could recommend
Cheers
Dixie

Hey Dixie, Where bouts do you fly in Palmy? Last time i was back 4 years ago i had a session at Coronation Park on the cnr of Rangitikei and Ruahine st. Was a few dead spots and it was hell gusty but i showed my big bro and got him dragging round the park on his face for a while...haha

I went to Feilding Ag High school so most of the boys were farmers round the area. Ill have to Facebook em up and go and find some secret spots on the back hill paddocks. New Zealand has some awesome flat terrain to ride. Where i am here, and over most of the UK, its crops, so most of the fields are always ploughed and no good to ride. Theres no sheep round here to keep the grass short either...

Off to Nth Wales to fly this weekend. Fingers crossed for westerlies.

Butch