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Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5457

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Are there any kiting spots in NZ that would be deemed "world class"? Whether they be flat water or waves and they crank on a very frequent basis... like more than 70% of the time the wind is over 15 knots and consistant?

Any worldclass kiting spots out there in the 20000kms of coastline we have?
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5459

moron. :shock:
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5462

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Eastern beach... there's a world class forum flagellator that kites there too.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5463

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all of nz is world class, its just the people in it that fuc it up
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5466

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i'm gonna reply to all 3 of these comments right now cos all of them r quite funny.

Shaan: I know as an honarary representative of NZ in the upcoming kiteboarding tri nations you will fly the flag in true kiwi style against the likes of Dan Anderson, Aaron Hadlow, Ben Wilson and Mr Broadbent himself. i'm sure your special secret world class spot that you practice at is the reason why I'm referred to as a moron for even doubting the existance of such a place in NZ.

Skyrider: Yes Eastern Beach is a delightful place to sesh it up. Unfortunately I have yet to find a way of kiting which doesn't require wind.... until i can find a kite that doesn't need wind to fly Eastern Beach will continue to be OFF the list of world class spots. Same goes for places like Orewa (great place to kite when the wind comes to the party). For a place to be world class there has to be decent steady windmost of the time... the usual standard is 70% of a season with winds of 3-4bft (15kts approx) or above for at least 3hrs during each day between sunrise to sunset.

Johnnie NZ: You are correct. i totally agree with ya. i'm sure you have found some good spots around NZ to kite. The group i kite with is ok though. We are pretty laid back out east, being unfairly targeted by the authorities with threatened bans. In response to the tri nations idea it's not a new one and i have yet to hear a kiwi response to this idea. The Aussies have given some positive feedback and Madness and SU have said that in SA it's a popular idea (they thought of it ages before it got into my small mind). The only responses to the idea on this forum are from ex South Africians like Madness and SU. That does say a lot for the rest of NZ kiters. As allways Madness has some excellent ideas and when i finally get some finances together (which will be freakin ages away) i'm super keen on spending a summer kiting in Capetown one of these days!

For the rest of ya... just forget for a moment that "thrasher" or "blownaway" or Mark Tucker" had anything to do with this cos i know some of you guys have an issue with me and what i've said in the past (which to be honest was no more abusive than a few of other clowns that are on here) . Breathe a sigh of relief that I won't be organizing this comp and i sure as hell won't be competing. I'm not in the equation thank god but the idea just popped into my head (and by the sounds of things i'm not the only one that's thought of it).

I'm sure the first NZ born kiter to reply to the tri nations idea will be the turbanned madman known as Osama... let's hope this isn't the case. Then again with Hazel on our side we can't lose.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5467

loser. :!:
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5468

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give the guy a break, shaan

you're the one who sounds like a dickhead now

this is a *forum* remember...
All Through With This Niceness And Negotiation Stuff

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5469

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Shaan I thought you'd be out kiting at that secret world class beach that you've found. It's obvious from the lack of any decent replies that we live in a country that has no wind and no beaches.

If your worried about you're special spot getting invaded remember that the ratio of kiters per mile of coastline in NZ is probably one of the lowest in the world and most kiters still have a job and hence aren't too keen on galivanting round the place at the end of the day in bad traffic (for the Auckland kiters) in order to get to the kiteboardin mecca 200km away... especially if it's ok just down the road.

There are two that i know of.... Flat Island during spring and Stonefields During spring
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5471

cretin. :roll:
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5472

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Well it better be good at Whangamata tomorrow as thats were I am heading

Looks like we may have a Easterly this weekend.. !! Lets hope it does not start on Sunday night.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5473

go the southeaster!

go the mighty all blacks and the mighty maori!
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5474

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ah yes the easterly...... i can tell an easterly is forecast... cos we've had no wind for two days in a row. Infact i can't remember the last time there was no wind for 2 days in a row in the Auckland area... very rare indeed.

Here's hoping that the easterly arrives on sunday nite... i work at 3am on Monday morning and are home by 11am.... to hopefully get the 8 knot easterly... then i'll have some great exercise pumpin up the 20m.... and do some delightful walks of shame at high tide with my kite hovering precariously above powerlines. not a bad days outing so long as the kite doesn't hindenburg and find it's way through the roof of a house :twisted: .

Then it'll get up just as it get's dark.... aw well there's allways the next day.... after work.... come home at 2pm.... darn it's only 50 knots :twisted:

Easterlies rock.... they'd be even better if they were between 10 and 30 knots :twisted: Nah mate gimme a SWer but if the easterly is the right strength then the east will be crankin for sure :twisted:

cretin
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5479

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I hope the wind is crap in NZ atm as being stuck in England days away from a beach is kind of gay, roll on the easy women
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5480

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It's pretty dead at the mo. Nice sunny days under this high though... great for drying things out and repairing kites.... pretty easy as there is no wind to blow em around the place. I think last year we had 2 days without wind in the entire year... Dec 4th and sometime in July. Here's hoping that the 2 windless days that have just occured are the last ones. Done any kiting while in the UK Philleas?
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5488

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Kari Kari Penisula up north has to be worth a mention...huge harbour on one side with butter smooth water behind the sand bars, and a surf beach on the other plus lots of other little (and not so little) beaches and bays facing all sorts of dirctions. my fav anyway.

Phileas - i too will be joining the land locked minions very soon in england. however, bring on cronwell and brighton

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5489

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likes of Dan Anderson, Aaron Hadlow, Ben Wilson and Mr Broadbent himself.


Aaron is English. He might have an SA accent from spending so much time ther, but I don't think having a dogy accent actually counts much towards your nationality. I'd imagine the underwhelming response from NZer's is because a) it's impractical to fly around doing this sort of thing and b) we all get our arses kicked by the Ozzies and probably the SAers too and of course c) who cares about competion results anyway.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5490

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Well said chrisb.



Trisha, Trasher, tosser,

Seeing as this is a figment of your imagination & you wouldn't get involved anyway... Why don't you make it easier for yourself & hold the Mark Tucker multiple personality games.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5491

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chrisb wrote:
thrasher wrote:
likes of Dan Anderson, Aaron Hadlow, Ben Wilson and Mr Broadbent himself.


Aaron is English. He might have an SA accent from spending so much time ther, but I don't think having a dogy accent actually counts much towards your nationality. I'd imagine the underwhelming response from NZer's is because a) it's impractical to fly around doing this sort of thing and b) we all get our arses kicked by the Ozzies and probably the SAers too and of course c) who cares about competion results anyway.


I have a few things to say in response to your comments Chris.

I'm sure the SA boys would gladly have Aaron on their side. As for ozzies and SA openin a can of whoopass on the Kiwis... well that remains to be seen. i think the results would be very very close and it'd come down to whoever handles the given conditions best on the day. As for the flying around part... the rugby guys don't have a huge issue with it and you guys all seem to wanna clear out and travel around the place so i don't see how that would be a problem. You could have the top 5 from each country go at it... mens and womens (with Cindy Mosey on our team i think we stand a pretty good chance).

How do you get the top 5?? Easy.... the Nationals.

As for nobody caring about competitions.... if that was the case then there wouldn't be a nationals every year cos no-one would go. But there was a good turnout at the nats and the wind even decided to tag along too!

Kiterdan i have seen a few pics of northland beaches and they look incredable. One beach in particular that i don't think anyone has kited is Cape Van Diemen up right at the top by Cape Reinga. The spot looks incredable and would get offshore but smooth winds plus waves.... the potential for big air there would be huge. That would definately be a world class spot if there ever was one and Cape Reinga easily gets good wind 70% of the year... Infact during winter and spring i'd say it was more like 90%+.

The big issue with some northland spots though is the wind. The beaches are nice but if there is no wind then it doesn't matter how good the beaches are. During winter and spring it would be good there as it gets the same sorta conditions as Auckland... maybe a tad warmer of course.

Skyrider I'm sure your little patch down there in the Waikato would also make it onto the list... especially if that current comes into play. During a spring westerly i could see Raglan being an ideal spot to host a nats or a Redbull Airlords.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5492

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I'm sure the SA boys would gladly have Aaron on their side. As for ozzies and SA openin a can of whoopass on the Kiwis... well that remains to be seen. i think the results would be very very close and it'd come down to whoever handles the given conditions best on the day.


Sorry but bollocks. The level in Oz is so much higher than here. Paul Jackson, our "NZ" number 2 didn't make the top 5 there. I'd go as far as to say no NZ resident kiter would make the top 10. Controversial I know, but I'm so confident that this event will never happen that I'm willing to make such bold statements. This is not to say that kiters in NZ suck, I think that, thankfully, we're not so focused on competitions that it ruins the pleasure of kiting for kiting sake.


As for the flying around part... the rugby guys don't have a huge issue with it and you guys all seem to wanna clear out and travel around the place so i don't see how that would be a problem. You could have the top


There's no way I'd spend money to go overseas to kiteboard at a comp. Who wants to throw away thousands of dollars to sit on the beach either a) waiting for wind or b) waiting for the next 8 minute heat. I think if you look at a rugby jersey you might find that they're not actually paying for plane tickets, and are sponsered. I don't know of many kiter's with million dollar endorsement contracts either. Hardly a fair comparision.


As for nobody caring about competitions.... if that was the case then there wouldn't be a nationals every year cos no-one would go. But there was a good turnout at the nats and the wind even decided to tag along too!


People want a nationals ever year because it's a good party and they like to show off in front of their mates! If people really did care about competitions, Trumpet wouldn't have won. *GASP* did he say that out loud!

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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5493

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id have 2 agree about the sean in aus, its bustin and lots of telent being discovered,were still isolated in a comercial sence, its like our car market of old,its unique because of our population and isolation,it all adds up 2 market bullshit.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5497

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I'm sure this thread alone will start off a tri nations with the large amounts of strong words being used here.

As with everything (including rugby) professionalism is not good for NZ's standing in the world. When rugby was a ameture game the All Blacks kicked ass. The minute the allmighty $$$$ got introduced SA and OZ caught right up. The same goes with kiting.... i remember not long ago Kane was heading over to OZ and embarassing them in their own turf.. winning every comp over there... Of course it could very well be that Kane has "retired" and hence isn't there to kick their ass anymore.... which makes em look better.

Is that what really happened? Are they really better than us? If so then why? and what can we do about it? Or are you guys just disagreeing with everything i say just because it's the cool thing to disagree with "Mark Tucker".

I surely cannot see how this bizzo of marketing can make you a better kitesurfer? Kites aren't THAT expensive! Or is it because there are no professional kiteboarders in NZ.

I do however agree with the time factor concerning kiters in regards to travelling in comparision with the All blacks. After all it IS their job toplay footie and get paid millions of dollars to do it.

As for kiters not wanting to waste their time and money travelling... that statement really makes me laugh cos most of the guys i know of are allways wasting their money and time travelling. Infact I know of no other kiter apart from myself who hasn't done any kiteboarding related travelling. I'm sure all these guys wouldn't do it if they didn't enjoy it.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5543

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The same goes with kiting.... i remember not long ago Kane was heading over to OZ and embarassing them in their own turf.. winning every comp over there...


Umm, I think that even Kane would agree that he won one comp of any significance not "every comp over there"


Of course it could very well be that Kane has "retired" and hence isn't there to kick their ass anymore.... which makes em look better.


Hmm, no comment. Or actually maybe he still damn good but not that good Back me up dude.


Chris

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5544

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First: I can't believe anyone cares about these arbitrary boundaries for the sake of competition. Give it up, thrasher, this is what rugby was invented for, and even then it's a stupid game. Rugby would have died a death long ago if anyone had the brains to show up with enough balls for everyone, instead of just one for them all to squabble over.

And as for the Aussie kiters thing. Everyone else has told you, but I live in Aussie so I'll tell you too...there are some fucking good riders here...even the nobodies with shit old gear and budgie smugglers under their wetties rip, in all conditions from triple overhead waves to flat water, in shitty offshores and pasty light winds. I thought I was creeping on up from absolute beginner to beginner level till i got here and spent three weeks getting spanked in conditions that 12 year olds were ripping in.

There are some good riders in christchurch (can't speak for anywhere else really, but i think its a pretty good representation) but the level over here in general is higher. If you want to kite full time in Australia you can, cos there are places you can go and live in a van and kite all day long. Also, lots more people kiting. Also, lots more sponsorship. Also, LOTS better conditions, more often. And there are some really competitive little cliques of chaps in some places, just egging each other on to kill themselves.

Ergo: good riders.

And my last point: competitions are rude as. Nationals, and things like the Mambo, (so I'm told) are fun cos everyone knows each other: showing off in front of your mates like chris says, but international comps are normally an expensive, windless, and frustrating way to spend a few days and dollars.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5545

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Gimme some examples of better conditions.... cos i'm movin over there real soon and i wanna make sure that i've done the right thing.... As no-one yet has come up with and world class spots in this country. Kiterdan i know you have but you forgot to tell us the wind stats. Is NZ really a crap place to kite or are you guys just "baggin it to protect it" so we don't get invaded by tourists.

Also if you guys are so confident that NZ sucks I'd really like to know why. i'm sure you have the answers.

Is it...

a) Aussie is windier
b) Aussie is warmer
c) Aussie is less gusty
d) Aussie has more bikini clad bimbos on the beach
e) Aussie has cheaper kites

which one of the above is true.

comon enlighten me because I'm off real soon and if you guys don't wanna ever see me again it had better be worth it cos i don't ever wanna have to come back to NZ.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5546

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ummmm... what Chris said. And Kinawera.
Of course there are some great places to kite in NZ, apparently Christchurch is officially not too bad, but really it's lame. I can't be naffed anymore cause the only place I really enjoy kiting has the name Colac and happens to be eight hours away and unfortunately in this modern age of petroleum depletion, increasingly beyond the budget of a $22k per year,340 in the hand underground worker. I used to like doing solo missions down to the deep south.
To get good at trickery a rider would want:

Warmth (fingers grip better and muscles funtion better)
Regular sideshore wind with waves
Motivating rivalry.

That pretty much describes the East coast of Australia and is far removed from the reality we face here. No need to outline the plethora of reasons to be here rather than there.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5548

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Aussie is less gusty


than Auckland

I found Cairns quite gusty and Mackay was a bit up and down at times.

Chch usually quite steady, most days down here not too bad.
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5549

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the east coast of OZ eh? Actually i was considering heading to the WEST coast.

I'd really like to know the reasons for living "here" as opposed to living "over there". I have a sneakin suspicion that once i end up "over there" i'm never gonna wanna come "back here".

I'm gonna sorta throw my little bit in again in regards to the so called reasons i pu up before. In Auckland it's not cold, even in winter time. The "Auckland is gusty" vibe depends on where in Auckland you kite.

As for Colac Bay... never been there but is it worthy of being a world class kiting spot? If not it must be pretty close. Interesting to hear that Cairns is gusty... if it's gusty than what makes it a better place to kite than NZ? Of all the advantages of OZ kiting the main reason is that "it's less gusty"... yet doofus is saying the opposite.
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5550

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moron. :shock:

Think Shaan cover this already.

Seriously, why don't you get onlne at www.kiteforum.com.au
the Aussies will be awake by now and could be delighted to fill you in.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5552

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nice work Lee.

It seems he is already there(the forum that is ,I doubt he'll actually ever physically get there unfortunatly) and pissing off the locals.


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That's not harsh. I've had a lot more **** thrown at me on kiteforum.co.nz. I will not live in the same country as a pack of wackos that have banned me TWICE from that forum. Hence the reason why i now post as "thrasher" on there. not all Kiwis are jerks, the guys out east that i kite with are an awesome buch of guys without the horrible attitude of the more experienced group up by Orewa. Unfortunately a lot of them are doin the same thing as me.... leaving NZ so i will be kiting solo if i stay.... and i hate kiting solo unless conditions are excellent (a rare thing out east auckland way). for me to get good conditions i have to battle horrible traffic to get to the west coast or Manukau Harbour. Manukau Harbour whilst the wind is good and steady is not a place you want to kite by yourself. These factors all combine to make auckland a pretty horrid place to kite..... I'm one in many people over here who say the same thing... infact I've stuck up for AK longer than most. Infact i got banned from kiteforum.co.nz for doing that very thing..... being patriotic. Infact NZ cops more crap from other kiwis than anyone else ... including Aussies. And now i've just learnt that there is no way i'm gonna afford to live here anymore so in a way i HAVE to move. Anywhere south of Auckland is ruled out during Winter time for kiting as it's too freakin cold.

to top this off the favourite place to kite for me out east auckland way during summer is in danger of being banned. It's the only place that works during summer without me having to trek all the way out to the Manukau Heads (half a day wasted battling traffic).

So no surprises why i've sorta grown to hate the place.... and now that guys from chch have started to diss me I have no remorse but to fully slag the place and it's kiters... if bans start appearing in NZ it's the kiter's fault... idiots from up north screwed it up and come down to our eastern spots and cause all sorts of problems... so yeah i bloody hate the kiters here in NZ. Auckland has only 2 spots out more than 100 that work in summer sea breezes... if those spots go... kiting in summer in Auckland is dead. Hence why i'm heading to a place that has lots and lots of beaches that allways get good wind.

I have no regrets.

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The people are worse than the conditions and the traffic is even worse than the people. In Auckland you need a 20m kite in the summer and a bigger board than normal. Sea Breezes are 10-15 knots in the good places... occasionally 20kt+ out by the heads... but it's gusty and the beach out there only works at high tide.... oh yes and another thing about AKs kiting that's worse than the wind... the tides.... terrible! most beaches have no water at low tide as the inner city spots (including the ones that i kite at out east) are all estuaries. The main east facing spots are the opposite.... ok outside of high tide but in summer they SUCK!!! 8-10 knots and no place to park... let alone kite... thank god the winds crap at that time of year. As for the much talked about "kitebeach" that is Orewa. That's the most ****tiest beach of the lot. It's great in a 25 knot NE wind but those are so bloody rare (about 10 times a year). In summer it's crowded and windless (8-10 knots). The meter may say 15 knots but it overreads by 5 knots. People continue to kite there and will eventually get kiting banned on the entire eastern sea board.. the area is rich, expensive and hence the residents are pretty stuck up.

Spring however is not bad... lots of wind but you have to travel out west as this stuff will kill ya in the gusty inner city spots. No amount of wind will take away the fact that you have to sit in traffic for over an hour to get to a beach... it puts me off even on a day off from work.... i feel for the poor sod who wants to head out for an afterwork sesh and has to battle Auckland's overburdened infrastructure. The kiters are horrible. The beginners are ok but they soon become jackasses as they get better... this is probably due to the fact that they get abused by asshole experts when starting out... a vicious cycle of abuse reigns supreme in Auckland's kiting culture.

Oh by the way i did mention that the sea breezes are 10-15 knots in the good places.... there are 2 good places in Auckland for sea breezes, one is 10-15 knots, the other is 15-25kt but involes a 1hr drive through traffic. The 10-15kt spot is on the ban list..

The rest of the country is no better. You can forget kiteboarding in Wellington. Sure it's windy... infact it's too windy. 3 out of every 7 days are too windy to kite in the city. 3 days are what you'd call ok to kite and the remaining day has no wind. That's ok Welly is a poleboarding spot and allways is... and a damn good one at that. The beaches are too small to kite in and the Airport is a huge factor down there. The east coast of the NI is a joke... just like Auckland... no wind during summer... offshore during the rest of the year. Northland has some great beaches and it's probably NZs best attempt at producing a world class kiting spot but there is no way i'm living up there.

Nelson is another option but not as good as OZ. Remember Cindy mosey does none of her kiting in NZ.. her boat is based in Fiji... another place people like to slag.

Christchuch is fast becoming like Auckland. no traffic (there is no motorway down there and they don't need one either) but the kiters are right idiots. The best wind spot down there is not suitable for kiting. The other main spot is the giant tiolet called the estuary.... this is NZs best kiting location!! Yet the summer wind is still crap compared to OZ (far batter than Auckland though). The main beaches in chch are as windless as auckland's main spots (well maybe not quite THAT bad). Oh yes no kiting during winter here either.. it's windless and cold (Auckland at least has ok wind during winter and it's warm enough to kite). People in chch mountainboard, buggy and snowkite.. that water temp is a scorching 5 degrees!!

Dunedin is not suited at all to kiting. It's either blowing insanely hard from the west/south or there is no wind at all. In summer the sea breezes are good (over 90% of the days are 4bt or more) but there is no decent beaches and those stats include 70 knots offshore SW winds as well.. not just the 25 knot thermals.. a poleboarding spot like wellington. Oh yes it's cold AND there are big sharks (at least it has something in common with OZ).

Colac Bay has wind in the entire summer (Sep to March).... blows insane but often over 30 knots... bloody windy.. 50kt not uncommon too much for me. Winter is cold and less wind than summer... and i hate kiting alone.... and there are Sharks there too. Dangerous wind and more rain than in Auckland too (but much less gusty). SW cape is one of the windiest places in the world... too windy for kiting


Of all the places that have access to sea NZ is the most dangerous place to kite... the fact that only one person has been killed here is a bloody miracle (He was hooked in and had no saftey leash so he sorta had it coming)

I'm not gonna miss NZ one little bit... I'd have to take up windsurfing if i lived here for any longer... and even then i'd get the hell outa auckland, back to Wellington where i wouldn't have to deal with any more loser NZ kiters and i'd have more wind than i could shake a baby at.

I'm not as tough as what i used to be... i can't handle the cold anymore. As you know NZ is the coldest place in the world for it's latitude. I know i'm gonna become a wuss once in OZ and less Laurie i think my ability to handle gusty conditions may be severely compromised by the freemantle doctor.. but winter has normal real conmditions with gusts rain squalls etc that will hopefully keep me able to handle gusty stuff.;.. but your beaches are much better over there than they are here so i doubt even your winter stuff will be as gusty as what we get.

Someone has already offered blown away a razor or a rope.
but sereously if anyone knows and cares about this sad person they should pay him a visit and try and get him back on his medication or to a specialist

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5560

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Thrasher wrote:

I'd really like to know the reasons for living "here" as opposed to living "over there"

Nah ya wouldn't... it's all about culture and politics and the fact Australia is heading toward completion of it's desertification project, and the opportunities just don't exist there to indulge in the finer things in life all within one hour of traffic congestion free driving. Kiting should be a 5-10% aspect of life, not something to base life decisions upon. However, go to aussie, you'll not regret it for a fair while. Some might even say you'd be taking a direct and positive action toward boosting the average IQ of both proud nations... but those people would be wankers.

As for the bit Thrasher posted on the Oz forum Earl... I can't really see that he diverged too far from a correct portrayal of NZ and its kiteboarding culture. Not enough to suggest he top himself or needs to get on the happy juice. He's just telling the story how he sees it, bit like the diplomat who said the Maoris ate each other and current asian immigrants have a fondness for strip mining a beach of pipis. So what?
The kiting scene in NZ has always had an element of egotistical and financial aggressiveness. Many of those who had a true love for kiting have been excellant exponents of the maximum life for minimum income ideal... others, particularly in the little usa of the north have failed miserably in this regard. There is no depth to the culture of this sport here. This forum is particularly bland. In the beginning Shaan had it cranking sweet, but in the end couldn't sustain the making honey outa dog shit routine and dropped to their level. The DH mtb and rockclimbing forums are... 'different' to this place.

NIWA put out a report detailing the windy Westerly El Nino dominated 1980's and 1990's... and how we've now moved into the next phase of the 15 - 20 year cycle, which involves the contraction of the circum-antarctic vortex, so the 'roaring 40's' become the roaring 50's and 60's. Hence NZ gets 15 - 20 years of on average, more blocking anticyclonic summer drought and autumnul fog inducing goodness, with more drizzly lows from Nth tasman and the NE subtropics... and MUCH LESS WIND (on average remember) in terms of the lee trough NE in chch and the premium westerly flow that once graced Colac incessantly. Northland may get more cyclonic wind and swell. Back in that last phase chch did IMO get world class wind, the last of the good summers was 2000/2001.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5562

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Dunedin is not suited at all to kiting.


and u know this from actual experience? no thought not

Round here only the truly keen stick it out, a group of six or so keen individuals who kite for fun, not for the $. The $ crew just don't cut it.

5 min commute to work, 5 to the harbour after work, 5 to the beach, only 3 hrs to Colac, 3 to the snow, 2 to the Waitaki Valley.

whats that u say? no weekday kiting at orewa because of traffic? yeah great


It's either blowing insanely hard from the west/south or there is no wind at all. In summer the sea breezes are good (over 90% of the days are 4bt or more) but there is no decent beaches and those stats include 70 knots offshore SW winds as well..


uhuh yeah sure check your map, SW is cross or x-onshore from Dunedin south!

70 knots? yeah once every 2 months in the middle of winter, keeps the snow fresh up the road, lets me concentrate on working for a change.

A SW at the right places can be the best of the season. waves big enough you can't see over em gets the adrenaline pumping more than what I see on your Auckland "wave" spots.


25 knots everyday? Bored with kiting after 2 seasons I think.


the random weather keeps the kiting interesting, you never know if you'll get out tomorrow, therefore u enjoy it even more when it's there


as for no decent beaches har har frickin har har, some of the nicest beaches anywhere and ooh look theres someone else on the beach if you're lucky... maybe a penguin or two. a new spot every day for the whole summer? yeah why not. sand beaches facing south, east, north even, waves too scary over there? take your pick of any other beach

rocks? oysters? swimmers? jetties? no kiting zones? a million sunbathing whiners? tossers on jetskis? not round here mate

not just the 25 knot thermals.. a poleboarding spot like wellington. Oh yes it's cold AND there are big sharks (at least it has something in common with OZ).


Cold? cold like the US or Europe? pffft, snow lying all day in the City almost never, lying in the hills what a half dozen times a year.

Do we own drysuits? Nope, not cold enough, a 5 3 for winter for does me and a shortie for the summer

yep the "cold" and our bitey friends keep the JAFA's away. I'll just go kite in the middle of town with the great crew of 6.


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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5563

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your taking offence at someone saying that your city gets 25 knots wind most of the summer? i wouldn't mind 25 knot winds every day in Auckland's summer.

Kane that is the most constructive post that i've ever read on this forum. It obviously explains why the last 4 winters have been less than impressive up here in Auckland. Back when windsurfing in the 90s all i remember is SW after SW after SW during the cold season and it was damn good. These tropicial systems even when they are too far away to give us a NE affect us in a terrible way by destroying the SW flow... a reason why the winter conditions this time round have been a shocker (a 4 day spell of no wind last week and another windless day yesterday).

Anyway i am glad to announce that i'm changing codes back to windsurfing and heading South to Wellington where i am originally from. No more kitesurfing for me thank god.
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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.... oh yes that does mean i'm no longer off to WA so i'm sure they will be happy as well. Wanna know the reason? Just check out my site at http://www.geocities.com/thrasherkiteboardin
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5565

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.... oh yes that does mean i'm no longer off to WA so i'm sure they will be happy as well. Wanna know the reason? Just check out my site at http://www.geocities.com/thrasherkiteboardin



Right, so maybe, you'll give us a web-break, and go spill your frustration on poleboarding.co.nz, that's a relief!

and by the way, Chch has some awesome full moon winter kiting
all we do is Portnawake

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5566

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Excellent news Trasher , you may have to change your forum/website usage to bleating/whingeing about windsurfing instead of kiting, but don't change it too soon 'cos you may have moved on to lawn bowling by next month.
Lucky escape for the Australians eh?

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5567

ha ha ha. that freak is sure a laugh a minute. i've often wondered what strange combinations of disabilities could create such a character, but never in my wildest stabs in the dark did i stumble on the simple truth: the poor bastard is a windwacker from wellington.

i wish him all the best in his new highly paid parking warden position and am confident we will see him emerge victorious in the beehive's corridors of power some day.
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Shaan i know you'll miss me.

Skyrider i've just taken up lawn bowls.

Alexb thanx for the weblink... i'm allready on it.
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 11 months ago #5569

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I'll admit to having considered moving to Dunedin. They have Signal hill and it's not so far from the mecca Alexandra. White sand beaches, clear blue ocean... not sea, serious ocean, and the glorious SW.

Big full moon tonight Alex... the water was up to the wall all along Sumner half hour ago. Snow's taking it's time huh. Was plenty up Arthurs, I climbed Rolleston across from Temple coupla weeks ago and bivvyed up there, had the whole place smooth fresh and knee deep+ all to myself, about a 5k run down the valley to within 20min walk of the highway.

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NIWA put out a report detailing the windy Westerly El Nino dominated 1980's and 1990's... and how we've now moved into the next phase of the 15 - 20 year cycle, which involves the contraction of the circum-antarctic vortex, so the 'roaring 40's' become the roaring 50's and 60's. Hence NZ gets 15 - 20 years of on average, more blocking anticyclonic summer drought and autumnul fog inducing goodness, with more drizzly lows from Nth tasman and the NE subtropics... and MUCH LESS WIND (on average remember) in terms of the lee trough NE in chch and the premium westerly flow that once graced Colac incessantly. Northland may get more cyclonic wind and swell. Back in that last phase chch did IMO get world class wind, the last of the good summers was 2000/2001.


hi kane,
i'm interested in reading the full report from NIWA.
could you tell me please where i can find it or what the title is?

thnx
4T

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Well I cannot find it. I should really save and post a link to back up any bold claims. The weather since that report has followed prediction more or less, especially the warm winter aspect. I think I read it on the NZHerald site at the start of the year.

www.niwa.cri.nz/pubs/mr/archive/

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thnx for the reply kane,

i searched the niwa site as well and couldn't find anything.
i think it's an interesting topic that directly affects our sport. i'll keep an eye open for more stuff like that.

cheers

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 9 months ago #5915

Fuck I have had so much kiteboarding in the last year , dont know whats wrong with you . I reckon New Zealand is a world class spot FOR REAL ! Hope I never see any of you at the beach , you will be easy to find cos you will be standing around talking it up like you are good or some shit but never going on the water cos you ride like A SACK and dont want people to know . you will just make excuses like its to gusty or not strong enugh for your puss kite , Get over it !:twisted: If you think NZ is so bad then please leave , go find your world class spot and ride with 300 other kiter at once .
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Well i definately experienced low pressure rainy summer-season weather in the tropics a few weeks ago & it feels like spring since i've been back.
I would agree there is some climate change going on.

Coming back home to Raglan really makes me appreciate how good this place is.

And hey BlackF*#@ersliverofimpotence you write suspiciously like Mark Tucker..... Grow up, go kiting, if your gonna post - keep it real.

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 9 months ago #5919

mesage was directed at thrasher mk ! Settle down skystriver , oh maybe hes your kite bitch ah ? as far as growing up , na F *@k that . go tell someone else what to do ...... :twisted: I will post what I want when I want !
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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 9 months ago #5931

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shadow of rage I seriously doubt you will recognise me at the beach cos i go to different beaches than most of the AK kiters. So it depends on where in AK you live... AK is a very big place as you know and that traffic makes it hard to get to other areas of the city. But i'm sure the sun will be eclipsed by your shadow of rage one of these days.

Oh by the way people who hate it here ARE voting with their feet and leaving. you don't see many ozzies coming over here and the saffas that come over here are coming due to NON-kiting reasons. There is a reason why no major kiting events are held in NZ. As Chris B and Kinawara said before OZ is a far easier place to kite.


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Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 9 months ago #5932

sweet as al , I just think we or at least I get a shit load of kiting liveing in auckland .and its good to have such a varity of conditions . we have so much space and are hardly restrictions that in my eyes makes it world class . If you can get real good here you can take it any where in the world and rip ! If you ride in near perfect conditions every day I think your ridding comes to depend on it . Just my opinion ....... good to see theres a few live wires on here , who can handle a bit of a rark up :shock: Peace
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Rark up is my middle name. Throughout the history of this wonderful forum where everyone can have their say I have caused more rarkups than all other users combined (now that is one thing that people DO agree with me on). Glad to come across a fellow kiter that doesn't mind a bit of rarkin. I really do hope that the shadow of rage and the beast from the east meet at the same beach when it's blowin 25 knots.

Let me fill ya in on my history here. At 195 posts my previous handle blownaway was the patriot of all things kiting in Auckland, preachin the new found secret spots (which despite fears from some quarters have NOT become crowded with kiters). I was banned in Jan 2004 for my patriotism. Me and fellow patriot johnnienz sung the praises of the city of sails only to have it trodden on by 9-5 workers who got frustrated by auckland's traffic (go figure). I stuck up for this great city and got the boot for my troubles.

But that wasn't even the start.... i could go on... and on.... and on but just head back in the archives and go back in time to March of 2004 and you will see a plethora of silly usernames that used to argue with each other.... banned twice.

Then a few others got involved and tried to raise some good old fashioned mayhem in my absence from things ranging from wind and kite to BEST and the turbanned jihadi himself but none have even come close to the insane rambings of a madman P freak from the eastside who has an axe to grind and a chip on both shoulders.

thrasher was born in may of 2005 and i am very glad to meet ya shadow of rage.

On the supposed hatred of NZ... people who know me know that I'm the last person to slag this country off. After all i have to kite here and whilst NZ may be daunting to visitors who only stay for a week or so... to live here things are totally different. Auckland has over 300 days per year with great kiting conditions and enough beaches to drive ya bonkers and once you know where to go you will be in kiter heaven. Auckland gusty? People who say that have picked the wrong beach for the conditions.

Oh and about all the ozzie and welly stuff... it's bullshit :wink:

There is a reason why i don't go to the tropics every winter and it ain't because i have no money.

My main problem in Auckland is finding people who are keen on going kiting midweek... never mind being overcrowded... the beaches are freakin deserted.

Whereabouts are you based rage? Northshore? Westside? Eastside? Southside?
eastern beach hates my guts because i did a big crap in my wetsuit whilst out there kiting 6 years ago. That's why i'm the most unpopular kiter in NZ. Beast from da east reprazent mutha f#$$%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 9 months ago #5943

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Fu^^^^Kya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Allahs love to you all

Brother Thrasher you are like a warm wind up the sphincter of an oasis with your humorous rebuttal
I personally have always admired your raked up nature and witty repartee.

I have been away to warmer climes

I have been away in the tropics and found Fiji to be more than windy and full of rain. Twas a little unhappy when my bed got up and crawled away back to its rightful owner the manager of safari lodge the "I think I am a faggot" Warren Francis, the man with two first names an unpleasant character of little worth. I should have listened to the wisdom of those before me and steered well away from he who has two first names. Although seemingly well placed I found the facility lacking in good in basics like wind good food- clean water and a bed that did not crawl however I did strik up a very meaningful relation with a large cockroach call Ralph who told me it was the best excuse me the BEST place to stay. Be warned stay well away from safari lodge and he who has two names and walks like a girl.

I see on my return our beloved brother Lee has done some shop front arrangements, the inclusion of some lovely thatch fencing from the 2 dollar shop has made the ONLY KITEBOARD shop (that sells surfboards and girls clothing) in NZ look like a small garden centre seeing it is run by a small gnome it is possibly fitting.
But it is still the BEST place..I look forward to buy some BEST gear at the BEST prices and getting anything but the BEST deal.
Tis time to unpack my bag empty the sand from and sandals and kiss Hazel good night

A chilly good night to you all

Re: Any world class kiting locations in NZ? 6 years, 9 months ago #5948

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that not nice thing to say about Anabatic - they don't sell gnomes - it jst looks like palmers garden centre

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Auckland has over 300 days per year with great kiting conditions


hahahahahaha!!!!!! that's a good one.
the 4 years i have lived in auckland this has certainly not been the case....
did you keep a record? how do you know? or is it just wishful thinking?

my guess is that if you have the full range of kites [+20m down to 6m] you might get 220 to 250 if you have every day to chase the breeze all over the region and call half an hour underpowered ride on your largest kite with a walk back up the beach or barely surviving on a 6m "great kiting conditions"....

don't get me wrong. auckland is great for kiting, watersports in general and better than most places in the world.
maybe we should start a thread where we record kiting sessions on a daily basis. just a quick post of when, where and on what kit. in a years time we can count the days....
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