Our aim is to supply modern style bows direct to the new zealand consumer.
The kites will be modern SLE kites, ccmplete with 4 lines and 27 metre bars.
If demand is limited; then costs will be in the region of 900 NZD for a 9 metre bow complete; 1100 NZD for a 12 metre kite and 1300 NZD for a 16 metre kite.
These prices will be adjusted in accordance with demand; and the nz exchange rate.
We have manufactured kites for the major companies
Our wind ranges are 9 metre 18 to 35knots
12metre 12 to 28 knots
16 metre 8 to 20 knots

Feedback is appreciated; so we can know if you have demand or interest in such a product.

what brand of kites are they? are you properly licensed to sell these in NZ?

Man.... my 65cm bar is slow turning,....

sounds dodgy...haha

I dont know, ther is nothing like someone using a pseudonym talking in generic terms about "major manufacturers" and mixing up the terms SLE and BOW to get me interested.

If you can bring an unrecognised/unnamed brand with no safety history, questional backup in terms of advice and repairs and $0 re-sale value I dont think many would be keen. Best thing about buying from a shop is that you can learn from others, if theres a problem you can dump the kite on the shop owners bench and they will/should support you. I'd rather pay a little more.

Imagine the room you'd need to launch with a 27m Bar.

I was aware of the original typo; but just curious to see if anyone would read the advert and pay sufficient attention to notice.



The features of bar and lines
Carbon Composite Bar
Professional EVA Grip
Bars with center hole
Compatible with any 4 line kite
Dyneema prestretched

Specifications
Length(cm)
45 53 60
Diameter(cm) 2.2
2.2 2.2

Regarding the re sale of the kite; the principle factor effecting the amount of money lost is the original purchase price of a kite; - ie a $1600 kite with a 50% resale is a $800 dollar loss. (my own view is that kites seem to loose virtually 90% of resale value with in a few years)

The fact is that the kite is unbranded - hence the cheap price; - infact there is the OEM brand 'Mr Kite' - do a google search or look at the endsville kite factory for more details -
You can come to your own conclusion if you feel the leading kitefactory in the world has no track record and no history.


Regarding support; yep - no support -

Gaining the perspective from the New Zealand kiting population - which this site represents allows me to assess the feasability of such an undertaking.
My own guess at the market place is that people have already committed big dollars to their C kites and won't want to the change; and that every one else will be to skeptical to buy.


None the less; would people be curious about trying the kite at the beach; if a a spec demo kite was available to try?


I believe Vets need licences; and when your a bit older (AEOBB) you will need a licencse to drive a car;

are the kites professionally made???, i'd be happy to give one a go if they have been fully tested and your certain they r safe :?

must not be a Nzer or you would know the minimum driving age is 15

as for you kites a manufacturer by the name of panish springs to mind, offerings of cheap kites are certainly real but build quaility was certainly not many of these kites wore down quicky and i belive yours will do the same, just not quick enuf for the buyers who will be left with kite pieces and

but feel free to prove me wrong

and heres the link to the site for all those who had a problem finding Mr kite

http://www.china-kite.cn/

I do not quite see the correlation between a foil and a flat LEI;

the reviews of the Blaze were actually quite good
www.racekites.com/reviews/getReview.asp?reviewID=1527

and I believe they sorted out their line issue

As a question of economics - do you really believe that there is much difference between kite quality these days - and do you really believe that it is the manufacturing process that is the critical determinant of a kites price.

ie the shop buys from a distributor, the distributor buys from the branded kite company; the branded kite company buys and imports from china to (usually) america; then ships again by air frieght to new zealand. At each step of the way, transport costs are incurred, tax is paid, overheads are required, advertising and sponsership costs met.

Correct me if I am wrong, but my assumption is that accidents occur as a consequence of bad rigging, lack of experience, underestimating the conditions and bad judgement. I would think that kite type (ie from one c type to the next or from one flat kite to the next) would have minimal impact on saftey.

i am talking about build quality not kite type, the fact is that you pay for what you get, it was not just a line issue with panish but a kite problem in genearl however the reviews are good as even i could not build a foil myself for the prices they were offereing



yes i believe there is a huge difference and if it means paying a little more for a quality kite then anyone i know would,

you seem to think that people wont care if their $1000 kite beaks on the basis that at least they didnt spend $1500 on a kite that could be just as broken, but there is a difference between a $1000 dolar kite breaking in under a year and having no resale value and a $1500 kite which will keep going long after that year and still sell for $500 second hand

both kites cost $1000 in the end however 1 will still be flying



i agree with you here although this isnt the only corner you are cutting



yes many accidents can be avoided if a little more attention was paid by the flyer, however some kites have ugly characteristics which often lead to accidents even if the flyer is a pro or a begginer, sometimes safty systems do nothing but make the kite powerloop without any control to pull out, only constant testing will discover faults like these

"Bars with center hole"

Kinda goes without saying. Unless this is '98 or something and we are all still using c-quads on handles to kitesurf 8)

Do you kitesurf "Mr BOWKITE?"

On that mr kite website, theres a picture of a slingshot kite on the front page.....

Has this company made slingshot kites????IS this guy offering kites which are made to same standards/pattern/materials as brands such as slingshot, but without the slingshot brand on it....

Or is it "Mr Kites" own spin on kite design....with bars with a center hole..hehe.

somehow this all reminds me of that simpson's episode with MR SPARKLE

I fly an Ozone kite - they are made in Vietnam so this doesn't apply to me. :wink:

Problem with buying directly from the Manufacturer is that you dont get to try the kite first. Before buying my latest kite I wasted plenty of peoples time trying kites until I found the one that suited me. all kites are different. By buying thru a shop I may have paid more but I got good advice, backup service and tried my kite for 2 weeks before buying one (new one in plactic bag). I dont think buying direct and risking not enjoying your kite, when $500 more for a kite you tested is an option.

the feedback I am getting is that (understandably), people are concerned about a lack of trying the kite out first; and perhaps would feel more comfortable with proposition; if a local representative could demo the gear??

ooo, bars with center holes, always wanted a kite like that

Kites made by a company that has produced only like 2 models of an LEI type kite, really can't be that great.

Whereas Naish, Slingshot, Ozone, Wipika and Cabrinha probably have all made 15+ different models. Most companies with 10 or so years of development (more in Wipika's and Naish's case).

This development shows. These companies have been playing the game for a long time, therefore they are able to generate good quality stuff. An experienced, well-established brand is constantly better than a young and unexperienced one. It's just common sense....

Of course the kite with the least time spent on development (the PL arc, with 10 or so variations) - with a mere 6 years of development - is just able to keep pace with all the LEI big boys. Think of how much better the (already kickass brand of PL) will become with a couple more years in development....

Mr. Kite, please come back in 10 years once your brand is well-established.

That is illegal in New Zealand, please read the CGA...

As the seller/importer of an Item you must provide support under the CGA

What bollocks. Where did you get that from?
Maybe YOU should read the CGA...

exporting a kite to New Zealand does not in anyway break CGA ruling;
the opt out clause exists - ie we say no support - means that you buy the kite and you are on your own.

None the less; the kite does come with a 6mnth manufacturers warranty - this would mean the kite being returned to the endesville factory ; and repair carried out if it was deemed a fault of manufacturing. This would be between the manufacturer and the consumer; and it would probably be cheaper for the consumer to cut their losses and have it repaired locally.


In the area of kiting; the area of misuse and wear + tear vs kite fault is a grey one.

I know of people (eg who bought the 2003 Naish kites) - full retail price -
getting stumped with leaking bladder valves; the cost of kite repair was met by the consumer despite this being a fault of the valves; and still the kite leaked.

And absolutely no reply from Naish at any attempt at contacting them

As a distributor it makes sense to ensure replacement bladders are available for consumer confidence - but it is not a cga neccessity;

The fact is that many kite repair services are available in this country- again automatically; servicing is not a problem (though CGA do not require this to be provided)

If support is required; the option of purchase of a branded kite through a shop (at 3* the price) is always there.

Hey BOWKITE.... I hope you got your order in...?

Mr-Kite is taking no more orders until 2007, seems they are pretty popular.

Or maybe the Waikato DHB has brought the lot...?

The Spig

Hey BOWKITE

If you want to send one out here at no cost, i would be happy to trail it and provide feedback to the kiting community on it.


PM me if your keen

Will

:shock: Hey Mr Bow kite. The N.Z market is very small and allready flooded with different brands. Best you dont bother bring them to N.Z. Advice for punters who want a cheap kite- get a pre loved one from a brand with a good rep. Support the local shops who provide after sales service. Good luck gettin your cheap bow fixed when it blows to bits!!

what does your manufacture think its playing at????

your pk007
http://www.china-kite.cn/power.htm

is exactly the same at the ozone ld stunt

www.atbshop.co.uk/productdetails.php?id=...te&subcat=35

do they realy make their own kites or do they just steal pictures from other manufactures and just pretend?

also try the red kite one the main page.

Looks exactly like a debranded flexifoil sting


http://www.atbshop.co.uk/productdetail...646&cat=kte#

ANd mr kites home page

http://www.china-kite.cn/index.htm

BURNED ... this can be quite a hardcore forum at times. He did deserve it though 8)



I Guess he chickened out?

Seems like it a. :roll:

Not yet burned; people do seem reluctant about the idea.

Anyway - feel free to PM me if anyone is interested.

Finally - about branded kites retaining their value - WHAT RUBBISH.

See trademe example; 9 metre Rhino O5 - purchase price 2400; selling for curremtly 250 - (seems a good buy) - this is a huge depreciation over a course of a year.

Actually that would be a 2-year depreciation - 05 kites would come out in June/July 2004 - its now Aug 2006 so that would be 2 years not one.

the other thing I was going to say was that when you buy a kite you not only pay for the materials etc but also the research and development that goes into producing them. I dont know whether Mr Kite has a R&D team but I would guess that they are not at the fore-front of Kite-surfing kite development if they are producing cheap rip-offs.

Another thing with buying from shops is you get the support of lessons on how to use the gear or a link to places that you can get it fixed if the need arises. Something that you wont get if you buy straight from the manufacturer.