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and then he will list it on

pic7.piczo.com/Popeyethewelder/?g=44407598&cr=7

only 3 kiwis listed , thats a little sad :cry:

jimmy22 wheres you pb? i can see it on there. a man with multiple buggies and yaks should be representing!

ps can i pretend to be a buggier an put my measly 55kph on there?
the goal for me is to break 65kph/40mph. thats pretty magical on the board and only a handful of dudes have done it world wide!

:cry: i dont gotta gps....i just stick my finger in the sand an see how much it hurts.

i did 73km/h but no pic of gps

I was getting up to 35km :oops: according the bike speedo on the buggy.. then I had turn before I ran out of park.

you land boarders should see if popeye will do a page as well

i have only done 66.3 so far on the PL classic, i dont think its good enough to represent a yak and my buggies. e.g. perring borrowed my buggy that day and did damn near 80 kmph with a yak of his

i want to get into the 80kmph+ before i publish to popeyes site.

with 35 knots, xx buggy, wind from behind and my blurr 2.5 ill get the 80+ then youll hear from me

don't forget to eat more PIES
when the wind gusts to 40 knots

66.3 is very ok

you got to start somewere.
we all can't beat perrin on the first day out :shock:

yep at 66kph your still going to tear your testicles off if you have a catastrophic failure of your leading link at that speed..... so it is worthy!

ps you better go faster because once the carbon revo granny grooved speed machine is running and hits a hard beach with wind you might find yourself trailing a landboarder! now that would not be acceptable for a man with yaks and multiple buggies!

I'll bring the trailer to pick up the pieces,
that is if you have the catastrophic failure
and tear your testicles off

bring it on :twisted:

I'll also bring the helmet cam,to watch this one unfold :?
as I would have to turn the cam around and face it back to see this all happen

I can never quite figure out how you get the yaks to go so fast in the first place? I can't imagine this animal goes that fast...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak

The trick is in the region you place the firecracker, the rest is a blurr.

the beauty of the leading link is its designed for one ton plastic deformation, but also if the elastomer failed for some reason the assembly is designed to be held captive , its impossible to loose a wheel with out a testicle, at that point you wont care about the wheel. Guster has made some elastomers !! looking forward to seeing those

i suppose the question is are your balls built for 1ton plastic deformation lads :shock: i hope so coz im a bit worried about plummets go faster grannys, he seems pretty mean, all this talk of speed grannying has got me thinking...we need to wear knitted jumpers and call ourselvs the grannybashers. that will surley give him the willies and make im fall off.

well i'm still yet to role the grooved grannies on sand so the jury is still out....
and whats more i can't really hit more than 30kph on my local beach so high speed tests will have to wait until i'm either at the 90 mile or down at foxton/himatangi......
theres a chance the grannies hit 50 at death wobbles occur. we will find out.
maybe i need to dress up as a granny and hit the 90 mile.... now that would look funny. died blue hair one of those florrel purple dresses. bolting past basses at 60+hahaha

ps i'll already be 15km down the beach by the time you guys start! yourl be bolting buggies together testing wind speeds selecting kites, changing your mind selecting a different kites changing tires ballasting framess. Ill walk onto beach with board in hand, unfold kite walk back hook in and Seeya!

NICE :?

I just made some lead bricks( 2x 25 kg) for my fibre buggy,
I don't think it's going to slow me down,
with 5 wheel kit and small tyres,
and 1 little blurr 2.5m,
+ don't forget 1 cyclone :shock:

speed speed speed
going to go passed that 84.6ks soon :roll:

That's about a bucket of tyre balancing weights! Gotta be easier than eating them pies and sausage rolls all the time!

Just a good NW'ly gust/squall in a late winter storm with enough room to run it out... or a cyclone! :twisted:

well i recond your goal has to be in the 60mph club. the would put 2 nz buggiers in the 60mph club making us the fastest buggy nation in the world!!

DO IT
Impossible is nothing!...

A man goes to the zoo only to find a small dog in a cage. it was a shitsu.

no reason why we cant have 3,
just gotta work a bit of bike mechanic magic into the bearings and find a sweet spot for the ballast ..i can put 34kg on the vmax before i start using sand...
im unofficialy up to bout 80kph i think...how fast were we going that day the blurr 2.5 came out gannet?
i did 80 on that old firebee 2.3...so with all these new kites it should be easy...it would be awsome to pull something out the bag with my old n-gen, that would make me real happy, stick one to the bloody yak pilots :twisted:

well for me 65kph would get me in the 40mph club and in the top 8
75kph would make me the fastest landboarder! so those are my goals

Here's theflexifoil board speed thread
community.flexifoil.com/showthread.php?t...ghlight=board+speeds

its pretty unofficial but the most extensive one i can find.

i probably need a smaller kitehigher windd and larger balls to crack 75kph.

and motorcross grear, all of it.

At least 2.5ton plastic deformation or more... bring the brass cojones!

I did 74kph on the water late last year and don't see myself doing that on an ATB. Seeing Butch and Chasta pulling loops on land give me the heebiejeebies! :shock:

wow thats fast on the water!!! i'd say it would probably be easier on the land on a hard beach to with the right set up than on water....

speaking of butch his max is 42mph 69kph and he is a crazy man so my statements of going faster than that may be pie in the sky! we will see.

yup, that was 75 to 80 kms / hr runs

in a angry OFFSHORE wind :shock:

just madness , all 3 of you

Why offshore? Rather hit the waves than the dunes?

I think I can still go faster on water. That was a very comfortable 74kph on the 11m Ozone Instinct in tight incoming tide chop. Just have to remember the GPS next time it's blowing 30knots.

Repeatedly do 78kph in a buggy before the back wheels bounce too much and I drift out. Only 94kph once in a never to be repeated squall/gust. New buggy should take care of the bouncing so maybe more soon. Waiting on that to publish a speed.

+80kph on the snow at Whakapapa on the golf course. Someone was tracking us in a car doing 80kph and we were overtaking at an angle going upwind so not sure how much faster but it was freaky fast for a snowboard. Takes so little to get moving but a very locked in feel to it. The acceleration is the best part... like hitting a supercharger! :twisted:

Only done around 30kph on my old channel truck APT ATB. I think I fell to many times riding those things to ever trust going fast on them ever again.

I'd love to try a hydrofoil setup... the crashes will be spectacular! :twisted:

offshore because we were camping and had planned the dates, then some mad dudes decided to have a race 10 feet from the waters edge in a 25+ knot offshore. It looked awesome, that 2.5 blurr was magic. Possibly why i now have one ex Aus in incredible Hulk colours. soon to be used in anger, carefully.

guster your gonna have to get that buggy finished and actualy come for a buggy with us man coz if you can crank out that kina speed your definently missin out on our trips up to south head..

ps, when is the next moose mission, i vote soon?

I can't go moosing just yet, I havn't picked up my 2.5m blurr yet,
any day now

Doing a little bit every day I can. 32mm TCT holesaw arrived yesterday so I can start fabricating the swingarms for the leading link.

Still have my normal buggies though my 4x4 access is limited. Also working on a nice big trailer and soon as it's nosecone is finished it will have a gas bbq living in it permanently. Still a bit of work left on the lid to close the trailer up but there is a set of rails ready to go on top to take the monster bug in all it's glory.

Should remember to wear my GPS on Friday afternoon if I manage to get out! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

i cant believe you and jimmy are both getting blurrs....SO UNFAIR....i wont stand a chance...mind you, you old men might get a bit tired flying that thing, it aint a "set an forget" like your slow old yakuzzas you know, you gota work that kite, bend it to your will..kina like the force, an old vader got it in the end...mmwahahahahahahaaa.

Can lend you my 2.something C-quad if it'll make you feel any better! :twisted:

that OK I don't mind sharing my toys
as the garage is a little full
Blurr Blaa Blurr :roll:

this weekend looks like crap on the weather map :cry:
easterly and more rain :cry:
I think I'll go kite fishing 8)

If that 30knots hits Orewa on Friday I need to be finding myself an excuse the get in the water... never mind the stinging rain or the dripping wet gear! I'm feeling deprive and need catching up.

this arvo testing when very well
about 15 knots
out with the new Blurr 2.5m
and a 10meter line set,that was just mad ,the poor little kite didn't know which way to go,so most of the time it just went down on the nose,lucky I didn't pop some cells.
anyway after a very rocky start, I got some speed out of her;

67.4 km/hr and 41 km/hr return up the beach.

the Blurr needed more wind 25 knots would have been good.

so next was the 3.4 yaks turn
still on the 10m line set(,mad old fool)
she just wanted to kill me an till I got to about 60 km/hr
then she smoothed out and we rocked up to;

76.8 km/hr and 55km/hr return up the beach

just a little over power no more wind needed,with no balast.

I think I may try a 13m line set :roll:

the last word of the day would have to be
long live the YAK

such small kites for such a high speed. with only 15knots. ....

why 10m lines?

inversly i was holding down gusts up to almost 30knots on my 10m kite yesterday. needless to say to was a tadd overpowered and silly. pitty it was a direct crossshore. otherwise there would have been some speed.

Lower parasitic drag. When you already have a high speed race foil the only other component you can reduce to go faster is parasitic drag. This includes drag caused by lines, tyres, bearings etc.

Most fixed bridle kites have little AoA adjustment other than the bit of auto stability built into the profiles to reduce gust sensitivity. If you've ever had a big kite up to it's top speed you know there is a point where at full apparent wind it starts to be overtaken as it cannot overcome its' own parasitic drag without adjusting angle of attack. When it drifts back the pull becomes more sideways than forwards and you have to bear down with the kite in order to keep it forward enough to pull forward and not sideways. This also means you're reducing the wind a little by riding out of it and so forth et cetera.

So to go faster, small kites have less parasitic drag and short lines will reduce it further. Though 10m is a bit little like flying a gnat on mixture of RedBull and amphetamines. Alternatively you can take your chances on thinner lines which also have their own compromises.

I'm still of two minds whether it is easier to attain high speed from a small kite in nuclear conditions or using a kite with full AoA range like a bow or an arc.

in that case go one step further in your persuit of less drag.
I think its time for the streamlined buggy. fully enclosed tear drop shape with small holes for the lines.

speaking of lines why use 4? you don't need to brake turn when hauling for super high speed. rig a bar sorta like a depower bar with only one line running to the rear so you can adjust rear line tension on the fly.

ps i understand short lines for park and ride. but if your signing up and down like a fool then longer lines must be better.

To get a small kite up to speed you will be sine'ing like a fool with a gnat on amphetamines till you reach a speed where it will sit. Though with a small kite you'll still be working it afterwards to try and go faster. Just ask Al about working that Blur! :twisted:

Why not get rid of the lines and the bridle... then get rid of the floppy, sometimes aerofoil shaped bag and put the whole lot in a rocketship:
www.nalsa.org/speed_record.htm#note
www.greenbang.com/116mph-greenbird-sails-down-under-for-record/
That's just not kitebuggying anymore! :?

Anyway it turns into a very big hole needed for the lines. But you can go put some of it in a fairing so long as it doesn't hamper your OBE'ing at the planned 100kph!

your on the money there Guster, shorter lines less drag,
but you end up with one very angry kite.

"in that case go one step further in your persuit of less drag.
I think its time for the streamlined buggy. fully enclosed tear drop shape with small holes for the lines. "

I'm still one step ahead,already have male plug to lay up.
I don't think 100 km/hr is that harder target
I would like to go past the 117 km/hr point

just thinking about selling some kites to pay for all the carbon
I need :?

so if anyone would like some pre loved kites , let me know.
at the right price of course.

3.5 Rage $ 500

4.9 Blade 4 $ 800

6.5 Blade 4 $ 1000

Where do you find time to make a mold? Don't you sleep either?

Might know where I can get you one of those track cycle aero helmets if you want. :twisted: In fact I know a downhill skier who has an old one with a visor too... just can't turn your head while your going fast! :twisted: :twisted:

Unfortunately I'm just saving for a new quiver myself. Some of my C-quads have seen action on both water, sand and snow and more beaches than I can recall. Perhaps time I give them a little rest. The the little 2m and 3m still has top-end to explore though.

a seated possition is way to aerodynamically inefficient! you need to design the coffin buggy for a completly horizontal position. also don't forget about the underbody aerodynamics.....
Finally to gain the extra .001 ofa kph i suggest the slick man. complete body waving and polishing.

I have the form keel plug from the race yacht we are building
m x 500mm W x 450mm H


ski axle rear
wheel little foots
leading link front
Blurr 2.5m
and alot of wind :shock:

as for the waxing and polishing.

I have a tin of NYALIC to cover the carbon shell with

missed out today lads.....2.2 weather...must have done 70kph easy, hadnt even begun to explore the top end, diddnt have the space to bend it down wind or really let the apparent go as tide was blowing in , wind directly onshore.
100kph is definently gonna happen down at the kaipra harbour mouth..just have the room to peel off down wind once you lose traction.....oooooh im exited.
had around 25kg ballast and let the tyres down to about 5psi... rexton also managed to pull the ligaments out of his collar bone after a downwind death run and the log....the only one.
murawai....log.
you get the idea, so we had to go to a+e.

don't forget spats for the rear wheels.

ps maybe i need a laytex gimp suit for reduced wind resistance!

Plummet: you don't think we should be going sharkskin or golfball dimples to let the attached flow in the boundary layer do all the work for you? :?

Gannet: well if you're gonna use carbon, make it shine and pop! How do you control the balance between downforce and any possible hull lift? Downforce is also drag and traction reducing lift could be... erm... rather interesting to deal with. Adding a roll bar?

Al: Geez... is Rex alright? That's not really a log you know.. it's some prehistoric rare earth buggy magnet. Which ligaments tore, shoulder or pectoral? Either way he's not flying or drinking with that arm for a while!

Plummet: The one reason we buggy is so that we don't have to wear them funny suits like you Plumsy old chap! The downhill speedskier has some spare for you though... including the calf fairings to improve your "running man" aerodynamics! :twisted:

Yes I found the only log on the beach as Bundy said, But what he didn't say was that he took me ballancing weight :? off my buggie so he could gain a few kph thus taking the load off me front bf giving me no steering under his 3.2 reactor in a shite load of gusto rendering me on a colision course with the one and only log on the beach, so after a blistering 50m run into the dead tree, the tyre pressure of the bf bounced me over and a zenithing kite gave me just the correct amount of lift to land me inverted on me shoulder. thus the lesson of a ballenced buggie hath been learnt

Wait a minute... you went out in 2.2 weather with a 3.2. Something else is also a little unbalanced there!

Hope you recover soon enough. It's not long before the BBBB or any other short term moosin' fo sure.

A little easterly action this weekend. May be enough for a surf else I may have to go chase Jimmy22 on a C-quad. May even get some time to work on the new truck this weekend and I have two blocks of foam that wants to be a surf buggy!

well after today its clear to me that its not my kit that is the limiting factor its my ball size.

today full depowered and the a drift on to control speed i was doing 49kph.... had a set the kite to full power and pulled out of the drift alot more speed would have been there.... but alas due to the gusty conditions and my small and shrivelled nut size i didn'y let it all go.

the gimp or shark suit won't harden my kahuna's to a brass like status.

gannet why carbon if you arn't worried about weight? why not E-glass that boat hull? the heavier the better right? or is the carbon for coolness factor?

were to start,

sorry to here, your pain and down time GeminiBoar. :cry:
next time remenber to take a camera man/person. :roll:
do you still wont / buy the holts block?

why carbon ; as that will be the buggy , balance the buggy and wind

the heavier the better right?
power to weight


How do you control the balance between downforce ;

have been thinking about a winged back axle

Adding a roll bar? ;

yes ,

spats for the rear wheels;

I will be covering the back wheel by attaching the fairing to the wheel bar.

laytex gimp suit ;

sounds like fun :? but you may have to prove to me that it will help
with the top speed or just make me look like a dick for the photo

on that note, does anyone know of a wind tunnel in Auckland/NZ

serious stuff!

i love it. post up picks as the build progresses. or is it so secret that you would have to kill us?

what about supermassive rear axle for ultimate stability? or will it be like operating a bus?

the answer to the downforce is an adjustable foil. but i think your right as long as your design doesn't create lift due to some vacuum effect on under side the hull you won't need to worry about downforce....