cheers guys your helps been amaizing, now i have a kite and im about to get a board next week. i can fly the kite and almost get the board going but uhhhh what now??? :? are there any specific things i should be parctising to get good??? atm i just fly my kite whenever i can.

Once you can get up on the board, start practicing the three 's' words : -

-Steering -Sliding -Stopping

Start learning about using a combination of directing the board with your feet and using the pull of the kite to give you control over where you go. You'll need to make sure that you can navigate around obstacles /dogs/beachwalkers with confidence.

Once you get to grips with being able to go in the direction you want, you can start trying to slide the tail of the board by doing turns with the board. Start an agressive turn but kick your back foot out a little, and you should feel the board move out. Take it easy to begin with, it will feel odd initially, but after a while you should be able to slide the board travelling in both directions.

Stopping is IMPORTANT. When starting out and you want to stop your forward movement, fly your kite higher in the window until to reach the zenith, after which you should roll to a stop. To stop quicker, fly the kite just a touch past past the zenith and the pull should slow you.

If you need to stop in a hurry, fly the kite to the zenith and lean on healside to take you and your board upwind. Once you get your confidence with the board you should be able to combine sliding the board to a halt, by flying the kite aggressively up the window and putting in a sharpe turn to slide the board round.

Once you have the three 's' words sorted, then you can start to think about riding toeside, powersliding and some basic ground tricks, (manuals, reverts, transitions, etc), or start getting some air, (jumps, spins, grabs, etc...)

It's all just begining....

Cheers Spig, the weather has been completely crap for kiting so ive been getting the feel of the mountainboard. Rob went out and was getting air but he had a 8m nd he said my 3m wouldnt really get me going that day.

ive really got to buy some protective gear aside from a helmet i have nothing, what should i get? i got some gravel rash in my hand and i was thinking of getting gloves or something. What do you use?

Cheers Ryu

I use 661 body armour. www.torpedo7.com/page/bikes/PROD/protect...-apparel/661-PRO-PRE

This stuff has got to be the best would never sell it.

and a helmet and Knee/Shin guards but thats just me.

Sweet my bro works at a bike shop so he myt be able to get me a discount on 661 gear. Dam wind its been crap for about a month always to gusty to go KGBing im just going scudding next time. ive set some jumps at the bottom of a hill near where i live, i can slide my board in a 180o on the ground and grind but i have no idea how to do an aerial 180+ do you twist you body in the air? :? hehe gravel rash all gud and i found some leather motorbike gloves so im going to tackle that hill agen

Mate sounds like you having a wicked time. as far as i know the best way to get the ariel 180 would be to twist your body and use your head. By turning your head your body naturally tries to follow it so this combined with the initial twist will get it hopefully. Dont trust me 100% as im a buggyier not a boarder but im sure it should work.

Cheers ZenoN haha Monday is a teacher only day so i will have a whole day to go mountainboarding and kiting 8) first ill need to build a jump that gets me high enough of the ground, the first jump i built got the front of the board of the ground an as it was landing got the back in the air....... doesnt take a genius to figure out what happend is there a website or something where you can get jump angles nd stuff?

Cheers Bond

hahahaha i just looked at your guys camp photos i swear the first quarter of it is you guys burning small trees nd stuff looks like gud fun ill try make the next one

Bro.... waikuku is all about the bonfires!!!

But seriously, if you don't come to the next one I'll eat your mountainboard :shock: And that's no lie.

checkout www.kiteatb.co.uk/ for help with moves etc... Also the flexifoil forums are good for asking questions, as there are more people that regularly use it. community.flexifoil.com/

Check it!

Gulp! dnt want my MTB eaten by Blizzad better make the next one then huh? man the wind looks gud out there soon work will be over nd hopefully the wind will still be good or i'll eat my MTB. Next time a camp is on ill get my bro to take me he's always up for a road trip as long as im paying........ nt long now till i get my learners then restricted yussss

hey guys what do you use for jumps? Ive heard of premade kickers but never actually seen one atm its just good ol shovel nd spade 8)

We use Kites for jumps no ramps needed and that doubles for buggyies as well. Its all about progression push your self but dont over do it if you do you will end up breaking something and in doing so you could end up out of kiting and boarding for some time or broken gear.

Take it slow make sure you get your board skill up then progress to small jumps and then and only then go big...

Or, if you are like me, just be extremely careless and hard on gear, constantly trying things that some may think are beyond me.

I just keep on flying until something breaks... when it breaks I just fix it up.

haha yep the second one sounds like me. Nah its for mountainboarding not kiting other wise id try but since i only have a 3m i dnt think ill be getting air unless its gail force :shock: im sick of the wind here its been souwesta for ever and gusty wich is ultra bad for our beach. i myt go up to Q.T i think its pretty consistent thru the gorge there Bllizzad myt as well eat my dam mountainboard if the wind dnt work 4 me soon.

lol i wouldnt jump with a kite anything less than 5m O_o that way u dont get dropped randomly (as often)

dont worry the wind is crap here as well... we went buggying at the beach at HIGH tide (driftwood and all).... purely because it was the first NE wind we've had in a couple weeks !!

And we had the killer combo of the HULK/V16 and the bigfoot 8)

I actually prefer the dunes in some respects. (the fun respect for one )

haha so im not the only desperate one, the last time i went kgb the wind was so light that i could barely keep the kite up and then i jumped into my moutainboard straps and waited like a dick for about half an hour for a gust and when i finally moved about a metre it got too dark and i had to go home. Think this smiley now picture it a hundred times more frustrated and you get my face

:? hulk/v16 and bigfoot??? are these buggys?

the hulk is a prototype arc kite(it is a solid green colour so blizzad named it)

the v16 is my venom 16m2 which is also an arc kite

but yes the big foot is a buggy

they make kites 16m2??? thatd be awesome...... scary but awesome. arc kites? are they used for kitesurfing?

Lots of kite surfing on XSTV lately

yes they make 16m2 kites, I have a 20m and had a 22m. There are also 25, 30, 50m and even 100m! Used for towing big canoes.

The arc kites are used for kitesurfing, thats what I use them for. But the flat area is not the same as the flat area of a flat bridled kite because the arcs are very curved.

Craig

The general rule of thumb is that the flat area of a C-shape or Arc kite is 7 / 12th the stated surface size... So if you want to compare an arc with a foil, divide by 12 and multiply by 7...

This makes a 16m Arc comparable with a 9m foil. Doofus's 22m is the equivilent of a whopping 12m foil...

better keep practising so i can build up for that 100m2 hahaha with one of those id land in a differnt country 8) yeah im kind of building up to kite surfing but id never leave KGB, man LEI's and arc kites are expensive on my big mac an hour salary it'll take forever. I myt get a petelyn buggy (new) because rob sed he'd sell it to me 350 which is like super cheap i think???? newae buggys seem all gud even if it is gusty.

which reminds me, i put my v-brake back on so i could go down MTBike trails and let my m8z have a go but every time i lean back or bend my knees to much the cable goes under the wheel and wraps round the trucks so when i try straighten up agen the brake handle in my pocket nearly pulls my pants down laugh all ya want but cruzing along the beach with ya pants round ya ankles dont sound so gud to me. I cant be stuffed taking the brake off and putting it back on again so what should i do??? anyone have this same prob?

3M is gutless whats the step up? for light to moderate winds?

Something around a 5.0m would be a good step up as it is about 3 times as powerful as a 3.0m and provides excellent traction in around 9-15 knots.

Yes a 5m would be the best size. it is also a really good all round size. work well in a moderate wind and when your confidence and skill build they can work right up into the 25+ knts the most ive had my blade 4.9 out in at the moment is 25 and that is scary!! take it easy and build up to what you want to fly in what conditions.

Get one of those $350 buggys it would be so much cooler than an ATB board.
:shock: DONT LET SPIG KNOW I SAID THAT. :Runs to hide behimd the couch:

hahaha k shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I myt get a buggy coz apparently its gud to fly when its too gusty 4 ATB, nd as for the 5m i myt hit spig up for the eolo ones coz i am a poor kid unless anyone is willing to sell me second hand 5m? man all the brand name kites are expensive as, Eolo 3m actually genertates more power then a 3m flexifoil blade but the bridles (? is that the right term? i mean bit where the control lines attatch to the kite) are weak on the eolo so ive sewed them up like for times but now it seems all good and is still dragging me around and can still surprise me on a windy day if i get a gust........... only on a real windy day. Yeesh i was teaching my mates to fly yesterday in light winds and ive probably untangled 25m of line a million times over they didnt geddit after a day and it took me less than half an hour lol 8)

Which brings me to my final point i may have mentioned this earlier but hw do you tighten MBS trucks? mine are far far too loose and i get the speed wobbles way too easy. :?

I would not be surprised about the comparison you make of your eolo to the blade as both were designed by the same guy.
But i do ask how do you maek this comparison. Have you flown a 3m Flexifoil Blade??? if not then its a pretty hard comparison to make. Nothing against you kid, you may well haev as Rob was down that way not to long ago and he was bound to have his Blade IV's. I soo want one of them....or two.

I've got a 4.5, homemade kite, that would be good for you mr BOND.

Used it for mountain boarding many a time, back in the day.

It'd be dirt cheap too.

oooooooooooooooooooooohhhh lol treading on thin ice here yeah rob is like my mentor dude part from you guys online like my obi wan, he made the comment not me....... (well i did too but he said it first) i learnt to fly on the 3m blade with a bar when he was down there with his buggy and he also got my landboarding for the first time on a flexdeck.
I was gonna fly his 5m flexifoil but i really hate flying other peoples kites coz there so expensive even though i like never crash kites anymore i just like to be safe. yeah rob is awesome he lives like a block away from my house hez a cool dude. he was gettn air on a errrrrrr cant remember maybe a 6m??? it was 2 light for a 3m anyway he must of been gettn about 4-6m air id say guestimating.

Yeah shotdown ZenoN hahahahahahahahahahahahaha (just kidding man)
though like you said it'd be real hard to maek the comparison unless i was talking outta my ass but i have flown the 3M blade, maybe they have a newer better model out? im unsure how old robs is

oh yeah Blizzad? home made you say lol im interested

I'll bring it out with me next time. I'm hoping the wind will be NE tomorrow, I'd say there is an 80% chance it will swing...

Can you make it out to South Brighton?

Robs are the best and newest model out. I think they have inproved it from the Mark III blades in terms of power delivery. the power of the Blade IIIs is raw it has to be tammed and at times it can be alot too much or so ive found and i think id be one of the only guys on here who flies blades.
O and the 3m blades suck from what ive seen. I flew a 4.0m then went back to my 4.9 and honestly i wouldnt even look at getting a 4m they are just pathetic sorry Norwester but you know its true.... :wink:


but the Blade IV's oooo Robs ones are the latest and greatest and they have bettered the delivery of the power. As it happens Rob might have killed the power ion the one you were flying as they aint toy kites and have a bridal that can be set for lift or no lift. who knows anyway good to see you getting out there and flying heaps nothing more you can do, o, except get a buggy of course..

Now to get my free hours lesson with Rob....grr cmon NE.

You are talking about different 'Robs'....

Bond is talking about Rob Trepass, the once owner of the Escape2 kite shop in QTown.

Zenon is talking about Rob Hills once and future buggy champion and all-round top kiting bloke...

Carry on...

Blizzad im way the hell in rtown like probably 7 hrs drive from South Brighton lol. Hope Santa brings me a favourable wind. Merry Xmas Fellaz.

looks like NE for us for christmas

good luck with your wind bond

Cheer (A.E.O.B. syMptom

(Man dats a long user name)

Xmas was awesome Santa brought me the best onshore ive ever ridden and i flew a 8m and had a KGB on a 5m with a harness and i got air and i masterd the 180 air on my mountainboard, what about u guys?

we got southerlys but it has swung NE the past 2 days

ultralord thats good as man i felt the power in the 5m when i had a go with it on the KGB it made my 3m feel really gutless

xmas day was one of the best NE winds we have had this summer. Simply amazing, boosting oh so high on my G2 13m.

Beach was near empty too!!

hahahaha yeah man! same at my beach lol just me and rob and then one other guy who came late and missed out

MANNNNN YESTERDAY WAS AWESOME! came home from work and there were the most kites i eva seen down here bout 7, 5 in da water and 2 on land (bth KGBer's including me) and one blo-carter. spig i learned how to stop my board fast and slow and do massive drifts but i cant slide my back out backwards if you know what i mean? like i can slide it fowards but nt backwards